Filco Majestouch... keys wobble much?

[typo]

my keycaps fit nice and tight on the stems on all my cherry boards. the switches themsleves have a little play in them. so does topre,ibm or just about anything else. i think if they fit air tight, we wouldn't be able to press them.

[stickemup]

I assume you're referring to me. When and where did I say these things?

In the other thread, where I posted the measurements.

Therefore, if your keycaps are detectably wobbling atop the keystems, as you've stated, this would mean that BOTH rectangular cuts which make up the cross mount are so out of tolerance with the keystem that the keycap would be resting there frictionless. Such a keycap would hardly stay put, if at all...

...if you have a few switches that are flying off, then I wouldn't even pause to argue and would send replacements with my apologies.

Following this wonderful customer service gesture on your part, I'll email you and arrange return of the three keys for replacements. And I've closed the paypal dispute.

Thanks.

[clickclack]

If you're such a believer, I invite you to just buy my board, as it's unusable for me..

I am such a believer, and I am willing to purchase your board. If I don't find your price to be of my liking I would like to purchase some of your keys and then kindly return them to you,  win/win. =)
I will await your PM =)


I am really sorry to hear how tormented you are regarding this.
I do find this really suprising for a number of reasons.

First, eventhough this thread is exhausting as is (perhaps I missed it earlier) but have you tried to take just the switch stem and keycap only and try and wiggle it once it is inserted? (haahaa kinda sounds kinky)
I have not yet really found a cherry key/stem combo that would.
If what your saying is the case then I don't quite see how the key would stay on at all. If a key stem is loose by even a thousandth of an inch it never seems to stay on.
My experience with this is testing thousands of keys and making hundreds of them, not including the many prototypes.


As far as taking measurements, there are certain dimensions in the key cap stem that do not affect the switch stems wobble or tightness. Blue, brown, black, white... switch stems do indeed exhibit ever so slightly different tollerances for a number of reasons.
Without knowing how precisely (and I mean EXACTLY) your set up, equipment and point of references are

The problems you really seem to be encountering are very, very, very rare.
It almost sounds as if they ejected the keys from the molds prematurely or overheated them with a reduced cooling cycle. Perhaps a different (off-spec) release agent was used breifly then discontinuted.

Anything can happen, but damn boy you could be the keyboard equivalent of being struck by lighting and getting hit with a meteorite! LoL =P

[wellington1869]

the paypal dispute.

ah, so thats the way to do it. brilliant

[clickclack]

...arrange return of the three keys for replacements...

I thought it was the whole board???
I guess I misunderstood by a mile! lol

[stickemup]

(perhaps I missed it earlier) but have you tried to take just the switch stem and keycap only and try and wiggle it once it is inserted? (haahaa kinda sounds kinky)
I have not yet really found a cherry key/stem combo that would.
If what your saying is the case then I don't quite see how the key would stay on at all. If a key stem is loose by even a thousandth of an inch it never seems to stay on.

The T has not flown off, other than the slap on the back test, but it's especially nusciansome. I guess, analyzing it now, it really makes the board feel terrible, because I use the t a lot, and i strike it from an angle. The k isn't a huge issue unless I shift click it.

Without knowing how precisely (and I mean EXACTLY) your set up, equipment and point of references are

Yegads, man. That's the ONLY reason I posted what equipment I used. I'm a manufacturing engineer.. I build things out of metal and plastic in a computer program, so I have precision calipers connected to my workstation, to properly measure parts I need to fit, as not all parts come with a solid model already built. The calipers have a resolution much greater than the stated tolerances for cherry key mounts that I found online.

Sorry if that comes off wrong; it's an unglamorous job, sitting amidst piles of junk, getting fat spending too much time on the computer, with fits of nerd rage when stuff crashes which happens too often. Anyway the only reason I've mentioned that, is for the specific question you asked, that I knew would be asked sooner or later. Because it's the obvious question you are supposed to ask, regarding any measurement.

Anything can happen, but damn boy you could be the keyboard equivalent of being struck by lighting and getting hit with a meteorite! LoL =P

My mom's maiden name is Murphy.

Thanks,

-> Mickey, "that guy that if a piano falls in the forest, it lands on him".

[clickclack]

LoLz that was a good read! Classic! =)

I just noticed another thread that you posted stuff in, I guess I am quite a bit late to the party. I also apparently missed a bunch of stuff in this thread too, oops!
note to self-
open eyes, read more,  and use refresh button WAY more! LoLz

I am working on a project right now, but I will get back with some more info/questions a bit later. Maybe at some point I can actually be of some help =P haahaa.