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Offline ichirichi

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Does a layout make any difference on a blank keyboard?
« on: Wed, 15 September 2010, 18:27:59 »
Thinking of getting a Tenkeyless (US layout) but I am actually used to the UK layout.  If I switched the keys on the US Tenkeyless  (that's all that is available from Keyboardco.com) to blank keycaps, does the layout actually make any difference?  Maybe I am missing something blindingly obvious (plus its so late here right now :P)...

Offline Rajagra

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Does a layout make any difference on a blank keyboard?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 15 September 2010, 18:35:46 »
U.S. boards don't have the key to the left of Z.
The UK's key on the left of Enter (i.e. #) is above Enter on U.S. boards.

The different legends might make you think you lose the # key by plugging in a U.S. board. Don't be deceived. It's the \ that you lose (assuming you keep the UK layout loaded.)

Does a layout make any difference on a blank keyboard?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 15 September 2010, 18:57:54 »
Layout is important. Whatever is printed on the key caps is not.

As Rajagra noted, there are some physical differences between layouts aside from the assigned keys, so you want to pick a board that at least is physically compatible with the layout you'd like.

Further on, there's also a matter of incompatible key combos. Most mechanical keyboards should have little to no issues with that, but I've mentioned before that my 1992 Model M does not register CAPS+Left shift+S* because of the layout of the underlying matrix, which is annoying if you've remapped CAPS to CTRL and want to press CTRL+SHIFT+S ("Save as..." in many programs).

* AFAIK, it looks like Unicomp boards - and maybe later Model Ms - do allow this combo, but it's still only 2 key-minimum rollover, so you might end up with other combos that don't work if you remap modifiers. IMHO if you're using unusual layouts, that's a good reason to check rollover specs on keyboards before buying.
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Offline ch_123

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Does a layout make any difference on a blank keyboard?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 15 September 2010, 19:39:12 »
As someone who has done this, it's quite easy to switch from the UK layout to the US one. Only thing of importance missing on the US layout is the pound sign, which you can use some sort of US International layout to get.