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Offline Culinia

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Learning to touch type:tips?/comments on first mech kb
« on: Sun, 26 September 2010, 12:10:45 »
Hi there, after reading this forum I decided to go for a Filco Majestouch "Tactile Click Action" FKBN105MC/UKB cherry mx blue keyboard.

It is the best keyboard I have ever used and so has inspired me to learn to touch type... which I can to some extent but I would like to ask for some tips from the experts, hehe.

I think the aim of the keyboard is NOT to depress the key fully down but to do it lightly i.e when it clicks? Hence the word 'touch' type I think must be a historic reference. I find this quite hard to do when typing at high speed (well high for me atleast, lol, at 45-50wpm) but fine when typing slower?

Would like to know is there any hand positions that you do? Right now my chair is tilted, arms resting on the desk and I am typing. Are there any tips regarding this?

However if I raise my hands like at a 90 degree angle it feels very uncomfortable like a weight on my arms and I loose concentration after about 5 minutes and slow down and make mistakes.

I feel slightly uncomfortable in the positions I've seen on the internet that you are "supposed" to do. How is your keyboard set-up? I keep trying new positions and I have not found a comfortable level for me. Right now my keyboard is about 5.5 inches from my desk, as I understand that the recommended length is 4-6 inches, this roughly the correct position?

PS also would like to say that typing on another keyboard feels really weird.

When I first got this keyboard I was not really amazed, but after some time and trying my old rubber keyboard there is no competition and no regrets, although I think here in the UK they are priced more than they should be.

Offline WhiteRice

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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 26 September 2010, 12:15:13 »
About the arm fatigue, I keep my elbows on the chair arm rests and keep my wrists up.

Offline Culinia

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 26 September 2010, 12:23:11 »
Thanks guys!

No keyboard tray - if I'm thinking you mean that sort of desk that has the keyboard underneath and it slides out? My desk is a flat glass surface.

Unfortunatly I do not have arm rests on my chair, but I was thinking of getting a new chair at some point anyway. Will definitly get one with rests, sounds a good idea!

Offline MahBoi

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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 26 September 2010, 13:13:40 »
Heh, it seems like a good bit of people are buying mechanicals (especially FILCOs) after discovering this site. Not trying to say anything, since I did the exact same thing. :biggrin:

For the FILCO and HHKB, I use a gel wrist rest. When I'm using the Chicony (for which the wrist rest doesn't fit on my desk), my wrists are elevated and rest my elbows on the armrests of my chair, as was mentioned before.

Offline Rajagra

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 26 September 2010, 13:26:37 »
I think touch typing mostly means finding the right keys by touch/memory. But it does imply using good method, which could imply using correct force. Don't make a conscious effort to avoid bottoming out, just remember you don't need to do so.

A good position should be as relaxed as possible. That normally means upper arms hanging vertically by your side, forearms horizontal, wrists straight. But if you keep the chair tilted adjust accordingly. You probably need the keyboard legs extended, but if you were sitting higher with forearms completely horizontal it would be better to keep the legs retracted.

Don't centre the keyboard in front of you - that would shift the main typing keys off to the left. Instead, have the B key centred in front of you. (Assuming a UK/US layout.)

It's best to float your hands over the keyboard, but if you must rest the weight, use a wrist rest high enough that it keeps the wrists straight in the process. If you really put weight on your wrists it might be best to get a softer (gel?) rest, but make sure it doesn't sink too low. Or use a harder wrist rest and sweat bands around the wrists for long sessions? (I've been meaning to try that.) As mentioned before, resting elbows on the armrests can help. Switching weight between armrests and wrist rest would be good.

Offline alec

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 27 September 2010, 06:46:21 »
"Touch typing" does not refer to force of pressing the keys. It means that you find position of right key by touch rather than sight

Its hard avoiding looking at the keys. I still find myself looking down, not to find a key, but to hit keys more accurately.
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Offline Culinia

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 02 October 2010, 11:38:40 »
Thanks guys for those tips. I will try and get another chair or see if someone I know will allow me to test it if they have such a chair. Also centring the B key (qwerty) to the middle of the screen helped.

I also found another strange tip that might help someone.

I won't go into the details as it might bore you, lol. But basically I swapped hands in which I press the space bar with. This has helped immensely and has stopped discomfort in my hand.

PS: would this gel wrist rest do?

Offline Rajagra

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 02 October 2010, 15:38:45 »
Quote from: Culinia;228976
PS: would this gel wrist rest do?


3.5 cm seems a bit on the tall side, but as it's gel that may be ok.
The plastic base is a good idea - I have an old gel rest somewhere that got out of shape, and the base got all "sweaty" (leaking?) I keep meaning to clean it up, but every time I pick it up the clammy feel makes me put it straight back down, lol.

Offline ironman31

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 02 October 2010, 19:44:36 »
Mavis beacon. Enough said.
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Learning to touch type:tips?/comments on first mech kb
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 02 October 2010, 21:01:40 »
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Mavis beacon. Enough said.


That's how I learned too :D

Offline Rajagra

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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 02 October 2010, 23:21:57 »
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Mavis beacon. Enough said.


Mavis Beacon has had more incarnations than Doctor Who. And she keeps getting younger!


Offline Lanx

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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 03 October 2010, 03:29:29 »
my first suit and tie job was for data process at 3 wtc, yea i head to wear a suit and tie to data process, and it was hell, especially my first college freshman job, but anyway i had 1 class of typetyping in 7th grade and then lots of years of teenage aol! (15-18). Anyway to pass the interview the HR person put me in front of Mavis and said ok go!

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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 03 October 2010, 09:10:28 »
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Mavis Beacon has had more incarnations than Doctor Who. And she keeps getting younger!



She seems lighter today though!

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