Author Topic: Non-printed, Ergonomic, Wireless, Split, Black, Mechanical Keyboard (Read 14828 times)

Salash · « **on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 23:19:33 »

What is the closest thing I can get to this dream input device: Non-printed, Ergonomic, Wireless, Split, Black, Mechanical Keyboard?

I want to modify a keyboard into this. Basically, I have been lurking this forum for a while and have fallen in love with these keyboards and want all of them combined.

The ideal specs would be: silent cherry browns, the truly ergonomic key layout, colemak, black with no printed lettering, and bluetooth connectivity to both parts of the keyboard.

I have this chair:

And will begin work making the platforms under the armrest to it after my first midterms this quarter.

Any input is appreciated, especially if this exists.

Johannes · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 00:41:40 »

Just to warn you, Cherry Brown boards are far from silent even though the switches themselves don't click. I don't bottom out (learning not to while still typing fast took a few weeks), and yet my Filco is significantly noisier than my Freestyle and every scissor/chiclet board I've used, as well as most rubber domes; the keycaps returning cause some noise. The mushy next-to-free HP rubber domes that are everywhere here are significantly quieter than the Filco even when bottomed out quite heavily.

Salash · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 01:56:09 »

Thanks for warning :/. I know it cannot be avoided to much, but I know that I would rather have browns over blues.

Lanx · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 06:03:51 »

click my sig to see what i've been doing.

Salash · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 16:06:18 »

Woah, I really like what you are doing there, especially the Playstation joystick addition. Does it work well as a cursor controller? I would like to add one of those or a track ball to my board.

Lanx · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 16:19:26 »

ps joystick is up in the air for now it's not stable enough to put vertical (this is actually the psp controller) and it feels weird mounted horizontal. But yea it's a lot of work, and it's my second mod so i'm actually learning from the mistakes i made in my first mod, my advice, plan for a second mod incase you don't like your first one, lol.

theferenc · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 17:21:50 »

If you're going to dream, why not put Topre switches in it? Much quieter than anything else I've used, honestly.

And aren't blacks/reds quieter than browns?

Lanx · « **Reply #7 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 18:20:09 »

topre really seems... difficult to mod, i'm gonna matrix mod a model M first since it's basically the same styling as a topre. (model m =/= ergonomic but sounds the best)
I think even tho he wants silent, he wants tactile too, (and if you don't bottom out, imo browns almost sound the same as blacks/reds)

Salash · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 19:26:10 »

I might settle for one of the filco keyboards when they are back in stock if they have the otaku version again. Also, the data hand or the kinesis contoured are tempting, though they don't have mechanical keys.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 20:07:52 »

Might wanna double check that pic. I recommend removing it; I think it annoyed iMav and I don't blame him.

Edit: he changed the pic back. I'd save it and post it from now on and avoid linking straight to his images.

Lanx · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 20:59:20 »

Quote from: Salash;277620

I might settle for one of the filco keyboards when they are back in stock if they have the otaku version again. Also, the data hand or the kinesis contoured are tempting, though they don't have mechanical keys.

kinesis uses cherry browns.

Salash · « **Reply #11 on:** Wed, 12 January 2011, 21:38:52 »

The contour uses browns! mind blown. And ripster, the top picture is exactly what I would like to do to my chair. Is that a vacuum cleaner extension with pedals on it connected as well?

cbf123 · « **Reply #12 on:** Thu, 13 January 2011, 10:08:48 »

Quote from: Salash;277662

The contour uses browns! mind blown.

They actually have an electronic click so you can make it clicky or not. Do note that the function keys are not mechanical.

Findecanor · « **Reply #13 on:** Thu, 13 January 2011, 10:46:48 »

A combination of the three keyboards in the first picture is something that I also want. I am afraid that I will have to build it myself, though ...

The Cherry MX Browns are relatively silent for being mechanical. Most of the sound is from when you release the key and the key stem hits the top of the switch housing. There is some sound from the tactile bump, but I think that the Cherry MX Black are louder because of the "twang" from their springs. Thinner key caps make a louder keyboard. Cherry's own double-shot key caps from back in the day are the most silent because of their thicker walls. There are ways to silence Cherry switches and boards, though.

Lanx · « **Reply #14 on:** Thu, 13 January 2011, 13:22:56 »

Quote from: Findecanor;277931

A combination of the three keyboards in the first picture is something that I also want. I am afraid that I will have to build it myself, though ...

The Cherry MX Browns are relatively silent for being mechanical. Most of the sound is from when you release the key and the key stem hits the top of the switch housing. There is some sound from the tactile bump, but I think that the Cherry MX Black are louder because of the "twang" from their springs. Thinner key caps make a louder keyboard. Doubleshot Cherry keys are the most silent because of their thicker walls. There are ways to silence Cherry switches and boards, though.

the double shot signature plastics feel cheaper and thinner to me than the standard cherry keycaps.

itlnstln · « **Reply #15 on:** Thu, 13 January 2011, 13:24:18 »

It's a damn shame Cherry doesn't make double-shots anymore. Those were tanks.

Johannes · « **Reply #16 on:** Sat, 15 January 2011, 04:01:12 »

Quote from: Findecanor;277931

There are ways to silence Cherry switches and boards, though.

Link please. I hope you mean real silencing, not just bottom-out dampening...

keyboardlover · « **Reply #17 on:** Sat, 15 January 2011, 07:09:34 »

Quote from: ripster;278036

Whaa? I actually saved the iMav version. I'm no HTML coder but I assume iMav fixed whatever needed to be fixed.

Yea I dunno...the datahand photo, just after you posted, got changed to Webwit's slideshow. Then it changed back after I posted. Webwit's typical shenanigans...

Findecanor · « **Reply #18 on:** Sat, 15 January 2011, 12:04:10 »

Quote from: Johannes;278929

Link please. I hope you mean real silencing, not just bottom-out dampening...

I'm sorry I have only my memory and my own experience. Various things that have been discussed are:

I meant bottom-out dampening as one way to silence them. Dampening the "clack" noise will help the most. The ring or square of rubber that you use will also help somewhat in dampening sound within the key cap's walls. That is my personal experience, others may disagree.
Thicker key caps made out of harder plastic resonate less. Cherry's original vintage double-shot key caps that were made out of PBT are the best.
Sound-absorbing foam in-between the switches.
Sound-absorbing foam inside the case. (depends on the case)
Lubrication inside the switch. However, this could impair the feel if used too much.

Johannes · « **Reply #19 on:** Sun, 16 January 2011, 01:53:49 »

Oh, thanks. I don't bottom out, so the "top-out" from letting go of the keycap fast is the main source of noise.

Salash · « **Reply #20 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 02:33:57 »

I think I am going to wait for this to come out actually.

Lanx · « **Reply #21 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 04:01:22 »

you'll have a better chance of receiving anything by actually modding, rather than waiting for the TE of all things.

Salash · « **Reply #22 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 02:14:48 »

I don't think I will have time to mod my own until summer. So for now I will be using the microsoft arc keyboard until I can I can upgrade. I am willing to wait for someone to make a wireless blank split one, but I don't know how long that will be.

cfishy · « **Reply #23 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 13:38:54 »

Quote from: Salash;290159

I don't think I will have time to mod my own until summer. So for now I will be using the microsoft arc keyboard until I can I can upgrade. I am willing to wait for someone to make a wireless blank split one, but I don't know how long that will be.

you can have one. It's just a matter of money.

Salash · « **Reply #24 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 20:16:55 »

I don't know of any keyboards that are Non-printed, Ergonomic, Wireless, Split, Black and Mechanical that are even on the market. Do you know of one?

cfishy · « **Reply #25 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 21:53:27 »

Not in mass production but you can always have it custom made. Prototyping one-offs are not impossible these days. It'll probably run you somewhere between 5k to 30k depending on how you want it done.

Salash · « **Reply #26 on:** Sun, 06 February 2011, 03:02:04 »

Yeah, I would rather pay for tuition.

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Author Topic: Non-printed, Ergonomic, Wireless, Split, Black, Mechanical Keyboard (Read 14828 times)