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Offline J888www

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« on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 17:40:19 »
Download, install and try IE 9, you maybe surprised, but is it safe...............?

 I installed it and at present am trying out this browser, please note that I have not tried to uninstall it as yet, also it doesn't show up in the uninstaller.
You will need to uninstall from "Windows Updates", if I am correct, it is intergrated into the OS as an update when you install, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 18:00:49 »
Let us know if your PC blows up ;)

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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 19:35:46 »
Hopefully the final release is decent, the beta wasn't too impressive. Took all my sites and made em look fugly.
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Offline typo

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 20:46:28 »
the latest build disabled google top sites in the address bar. i liked that!

for instance just type in "geekhack" and here you are!

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 23:03:42 »
It's good to see that they've finally begun to treat the browser as a feature-competitive market.

However, I think I'll stick to Opera and Chromium.  IE9 is okay, but it lacks a bell or whistle I lust for to justify changing now.

However, it did manage to really screw up my web development job.  I could cope with using a Multi-IE hack to keep IE6, 7, and 8 happy together on my WinXP desktop at work, but IE9 either means having to roll out Virtual PC (at least) or upgrade to Win7 (since it will cost, may as well skip Vista) and try to XP-Mode or emulate my way back to the old versions.
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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 23:16:13 »
I'm sorry, but this thread title made me LOL
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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 02:39:01 »
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You first.

Firefox+Greasemonkey+Adblock = WIN!


This.

To be honest they might be better off "rebranding" new IE versions since a lot of people doesn't like it. If they pretended to release a new, rebranded and redesigned IE as a new browser it'd probably be easier to steal users.
Though I guess they'd lose out on all the older, not-so-competent users who think IE is 'the internet' and wouldn't care about the differences between IE and FF.

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 02:56:29 »
I'm just sticking with Chrome...
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Offline godly_music

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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 04:57:12 »
Opera+Opera+Opera = Better than Wagner.

IE will never interest me. ActiveX is a can of worms and all they'll ever do is play catch-up with the real browsers anyhow.

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 07:21:05 »
For all their posturing and promises about browser safety, every version of Internet Explorer continues to be substantially less secure than its contemporary competitors. I have no doubt that IE 9 will be the same.

I tried some early beta of IE9. It seemed to be a substantial improvement over earlier versions of IE (not a difficult thing to do), but there's a lot of silly stuff. For example, all the tabs are located to the right of the URL bar, so that even on a relatively high res monitor, they will start squashing after you have about 4-5 of them open. MS claims that they designed it like this with less technically adept users in mind who don't use tabs. In other words, they didn't design it properly in prior versions, users didn't use it, so they designed it even worse so that no one will ever use it. Another fine example from Microsoft of how assuming that your users are idiots will guarantee that your users are idiots.

In terms of UI, it fits in perfectly with Microsoft's long established corporate strategy of trying to copy verbatim from a competitor (in this case Chrome) but somehow managing to screw it up. One thing, albeit small, that really bothers me about the GUI is the back button -


(My emphasis)

Now, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and not everything appeals to everyone, but this quite simply is just an icon that was too big for purpose that has had a bit chopped off to fit. Here it looks like someone in MS actually sat down and spent some considerable amount of time ensuring that IE9's interface looks like it was designed by a 4 year old.

But really, even if they managed to iron out all the stuff I have mentioned, and stuff I haven't mentioned, you'd have your standard issue run of the mill browser design that everyone else has had over the past 3-4 years. If MS wants people to take them seriously, they need to beyond bad copies of their competitors products and actually make something new and unique. I started using Firefox back in the early beta days when it was still called Firebird, then switched to Chrome because the UI was excellent, then to Opera 10.5 because it combined the interface of Chrome with a browser that was... usable? I think I'll want to see something pretty substantial to convince me that Opera is no longer the way to go.

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« Last Edit: Thu, 17 March 2011, 18:21:51 by ch_123 »

Offline Lanx

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 07:53:12 »
it's actually pretty nice, i loaded it on my notebook cuz i had an app that only can use ie, and ie7 was too old. But this is cuz i was forced to upgrade, i would never willingly do it, but i figure for ppl who have business/company computers (where you can't install your preferred stuff) ie9 = not bad.

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 08:41:34 »
Too bad it not supports Windows Xp.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 10:07:44 »
People use Windows XP? People use Internet Explorer? Christ.

Offline RiGS

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« Reply #13 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 10:11:52 »
I like xp, because it is compact and fast. Also it was easy to customize with nlite, and I haven't had any stability issues for ages.
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Offline xetsog

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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 10:49:13 »
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In terms of UI, it fits in perfectly with Microsoft's long established corporate strategy of trying to copy verbatim from a competitor (in this case Chrome) but somehow managing to screw it up. One thing, albeit small, that really bothers me about the GUI is the back button -

If you think they copied the back button from anywhere but their own prototype Longhorn (scrapped predecessor of Vista), you are mistaken.

However, I agree with your rant on the tabs. Microsoft should know better.

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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 12:27:44 »
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If you think they copied the back button from anywhere but their own prototype Longhorn (scrapped predecessor of Vista), you are mistaken.


I was referring to the UI of the browser as a whole in regards to the Chrome thing. Then again, so do current versions of Opera, and Firefox 4.

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Anyway, in Finland, most companies, national and municipal institutions are still highly dependent on XP and probably remain so until official support is dropped, maybe even beyond that. I'd imagine the situation is pretty much the same in our neigbouring countries. For example, in healthcare, application backwards compatibility and the difficulty of implementing upgrades has been one major problem. I'm all for abolishing XP and Microsoft products in the public sector, but it's not as easy as it sounds.


Indeed, but I don't think making new software for it is that big of a priority for anyone really.

I think the official line from Redmond is that the graphics acceleration used in IE9 depends on OS features that only appeared in Vista.

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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 12:39:04 »
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I think the official line from Redmond is that the graphics acceleration used in IE9 depends on OS features that only appeared in Vista.


This, plus XP is in "extended support", meaning security and glaring bug fixes only. No new features, new software, nothing.

But, seriously, XP is 2 versions back. Try using a 10.4 system to run anything modern. Hello, lots of newer software even requires 10.6 for the latest versions.

MS is in a no-win situation, honestly. People clamor for a better browser, so they provide one. People *****. People clamor for a better OS. They provide one. People *****.

No matter what they do, they can't win. Which is sad, because IE9 really is quite an impressive browser, Windows 7 is slick and fast, and the MS dev tools trump everyone at the moment.

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« Reply #17 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 13:37:47 »
Like any big company that makes a popular software product for too long, MS has to compromise between keeping old customers happy (by keeping a consistent method of operation, software backwards compatibility etc) and appealing to new customers (fixing problems, making the thing easier to use, making it more powerful). Given that these goals are usually mutually exclusive, it ends up pissing both categories of people. Apple gets around this problem by just refusing to support older hardware/software. Linux gets around it due to the fact that you can poke around with your old open source software to make it work under a modern system (installing proprietary software under Linux is often an absolute nightmare due to library dependencies and the general lack of standardization across distros)

IE9 seems to be a usable browser. It just came to the market about 2-3 years too late to be a great one.
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Offline J888www

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« Reply #18 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 17:12:57 »
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I like xp, because it is compact and fast. Also it was easy to customize with nlite, and I haven't had any stability issues for ages.

......but but but  it's no comparison to Win 7 64bit
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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 18:34:18 »
I have to use a virtual machine with XP to get my old scanner working under Windows 7 in either 32 bit or 64 bit flavors.

The scanner magically works out of the box with 64 bit Ubuntu though.

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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 21:12:39 »
afaik ie has been more secure than the others. the others, simply don't make their issues known. they wait for someone to point them out. ms addresses them. albeit slowly.

for banking etc. i think i would stick with ie. it is no problem to have two browsers installed you know.

also, ms addressed the tabs to the side in the final. anyways, i happen to like it.
even though it does crash. mozilla is pretty nice but i am afraid of it's security.

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 19 March 2011, 05:07:19 »
You're afraid of security issues in Firefox, so you use Internet Explorer? Let us know how that one goes.

Offline Lanx

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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 19 March 2011, 15:39:04 »
acutally my laptop is xp, and ie9 installed fine on it... so...
2 things
xp works fine on my laptop
it's my kitchen computer so i really don't feel like upgrading it
(plus it's the only 32bit machine left aside from my netbook)

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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 20 March 2011, 04:42:30 »
Will it blend???