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Offline Sugoi

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The guys at ComputerWare UK currently have the following models of that highly lauded brand in their range among others:

CST2545W: MTR* 1600 cpi
CST2545-W5-RC: MTR* 1900 cpi
CST2545-XW5-RC: MTR* 3200 cpi
*Max. Tracking Resolution

According to CST the only difference between the models is the selectable max. tracking resolution.

Now I'm wondering about which one to get. I know the higher the selectable resolution the better it is. However, at the same time the price goes up with the resolution. Thing is I don't know if I need a high resolution. I mean my SteelSeries Xai mouse supports a resolution of up to 5000 dpi if I remember correctly, but I have always set it to 900 dpi or rather 450 dpi (for sniping in shooters). Hence I would like to ask you guys for advice.

Which one would you get if you were in my place?
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 April 2011, 10:30:39 by Sugoi »

Offline Sugoi

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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 10:33:18 »
I guess that means a max. of 1600 cpi would be sufficient when using just one monitor, right?
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 April 2011, 10:35:50 by Sugoi »

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:28:34 »
Currently I have mine set at 2400 CPI (it's the 3200 CPI model) for my 1920x1080 monitor. The windows mouse sensitivity and the Superior-X software sensitivity are both at a little above half though.

Maybe it's an illusion, but I seem to get much smoother tracking if I have the trackball set at a higher CPI and the Windows sensitivity turned down to compensate, as opposed to a lower CPI on the 'ball and a higher sensitivity on the computer. Does this make sense or is it just me?

Anyway, when I ordered my 'ball from Fentek, the price difference between the 1600 CPI and 3200 CPI was $10 (never heard of a 1900 CPI version before). So it was almost a no-brainer to go for the 3200.
So I guess if the price difference isn't too much, I'd advise going for the higher CPI one just in case you find yourself needing it. Also, you may find yourself turning up the CPI as you get used to the trackball. In my experience there IS a learning curve, even though I've used a different finger-ball (Logitech Marble Mouse) for several years prior to getting the CST.

CZI

EDIT: Just clicked on the link like I should've done before I posted. The 3200 CPI is only 10 pounds more than the 1900 CPI, which is like fifteen US dollars I think (I'm sketchy on the conversion rate so this is only a guess). So for the price difference, I'd go for the 3200 CPI unless you're really strapped for cash.

BTW, why don't they offer the clear version over here and with a scroll drum? I'd stuff that thing so full of LEDs that you could see the bones through my hand when I was using it. Now THAT would be cool.
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:42:07 by craZivn »

Offline craZivn

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 13:47:38 »
SPOILER ALERT!

I think I read somewhere that the DPI was 800 on the Marble.

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 14:22:52 »
It may very well have been you, I don't remember where I saw it. I just seem to remember coming across a figure of 800 DPI when I was trying to research why my Marble Mouse was choppy on my new monitor.

I can't find it now to save my life, I'm looking, looking...

Offline Sugoi

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 16 April 2011, 14:45:06 »
Quote from: craZivn;332237
EDIT: Just clicked on the link like I should've done before I posted. The 3200 CPI is only 10 pounds more than the 1900 CPI, which is like fifteen US dollars I think (I'm sketchy on the conversion rate so this is only a guess). So for the price difference, I'd go for the 3200 CPI unless you're really strapped for cash.
Well, including VAT the 1600 cpi model's price is 30 GBP lower, which is a diffent story then, unfortunately... *cough, cough* x__X

I'm not really strapped for cash, however, spending 30 GBP on something that I probably don't need at all (according to ripster) would make feel very bad if you know what I mean. *sighs* Whoever has choice has torment. -_-
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 April 2011, 14:48:36 by Sugoi »

Offline Sugoi

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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 18 April 2011, 10:06:53 »
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...or CST is actually HALF their published DPI ratings.
O__O Errr..., have you contacted CST regarding your measurements/calculations?
I mean if your measurements/calculation are right then this fraud....

Offline Sugoi

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 18 April 2011, 11:06:00 »
Argh, this is gonna rip a huge hole into my purse but I think I'm will go all out and order the 3200 cpi model... x__X

By the way, Computerware UK writes on their site:
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Life testing indicates that this unit may outlive most users. It, most probably, will be the last pointing device you will ever need to buy.


If this was roughly true, then it would be even more worth the higher investment. (6+ years or so would be pretty decent)
What's your opinion on this?
« Last Edit: Mon, 18 April 2011, 11:14:24 by Sugoi »

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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 18 April 2011, 11:51:59 »
Quote from: Sugoi;332757
Argh, this is gonna rip a huge hole into my purse but I think I'm will go all out and order the 3200 cpi model... x__X

By the way, Computerware UK writes on their site:



If this was roughly true, then it would be even more worth the higher investment. (6+ years or so would be pretty decent)
What's your opinion on this?

 
This was what I was trying to say in my previous post, before the forum move deleted it :p

If you can ever find something that you need only buy once and it will last you 5+ years, DO IT. It will save you money in the long run, and the more we progress to a price leader business structure all around the world the more these high quality keyboards and mice will be disappearing.

If you can buy a keyboard and a trackball mouse that will last you for the next 15 years with good care, you've saved yourself that ~1000 you could have spent otherwise. Back when I used to buy gaming rubber dome keyboards they'd last only a year and about halfway through a PC build. I'd have to buy a new gaming keyboard every year! I had a Logitech G5 that lasted me 2 years, and I have this Mamba that started getting all squeaky and annoying after a year, but they are my two most long-lived mice.

If you buy a gaming keyboard every 1.5 years at $100 each, after 3 years you'll have almost paid for that Realforce and you will have paid in full and THEN some that Filco. It will last another 7 years, so you'll make several times your money back.

If you buy this trackball and it lasts you the same amount of time, you've saved yourself about $50 of mediocre trackballs a year (I've never had one that lasted over a year). It will pay for itself in 3 years, and the rest is profit in your pocket!

If you didn't get the 3200 dpi model, it might not be good enough in 3 years. Screen resolutions will get higher, you may get a 27'' screen or do a multi-monitor setup. All that money you spent on the first CST will be a waste if you have to get a new one! Better to get the 3200 dpi from the start -  you'll take a hit now but if you track your expenses after a few years you'll be able to count the money you didn't spend on a new trackball as profit ;)

This is how my dad taught me to buy everything. Get the BEST quality thing you can get now, it will pay for itself down the road! Always do simple mathematical calculations to see if it's in your best interests first - it almost always is.

NOTE: This does not apply to a college education. :p
Keyboards: Filco Majestouch-2 87key Browns - Realforce 103UB 55g - Compaq MX11800 (ghetto clears + doubleshots)

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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 18 April 2011, 12:06:24 »
Did you need to use Photoshop/Illustator/Finance/Economics/Statistical applications? Didn't know 'notbooks' could do that stuff, I guess I was fooled! ;)
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« Reply #10 on: Mon, 18 April 2011, 12:26:05 »
Quote from: .XL;332787
NOTE: This does not apply to a college education. :p
*laughs* Thanks a lot, .XL. Has helped me to make up my mind. ^__^

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« Reply #11 on: Mon, 18 April 2011, 12:53:10 »
So the error doesn't have to do with the pool ball itself? When I get a CST, I want to swap in a pool ball, but not if it will decrease performance.
Keyboards: Filco Majestouch-2 87key Browns - Realforce 103UB 55g - Compaq MX11800 (ghetto clears + doubleshots)