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Offline MissileMike

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« on: Thu, 14 July 2011, 22:18:37 »
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Offline mr_a500

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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 14 July 2011, 22:51:13 »
On the back, one of the screws is wrong. Somebody probably opened it at one time and lost the original screw.

Even the guy at Clickykeyboards opens every "NIB" AT keyboard he sells. I wish I could get a "New in Box" AT Model F that was truly new.
(...but I'd probably need a time machine)
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Offline TexasFlood

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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 14 July 2011, 23:05:05 »
Quote from: mr_a500;380730
On the back, one of the screws is wrong. Somebody probably opened it at one time and lost the original screw.

Even the guy at Clickykeyboards opens every "NIB" AT keyboard he sells. I wish I could get a "New in Box" AT Model F that was truly new.
(...but I'd probably need a time machine)
That's a good point.  I hadn't even noticed that.  Looks very clean but perhaps a recycled virgin.
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Offline REVENGE

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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 14 July 2011, 23:06:10 »
This is not NIB, the seller said he opened up the board and replaced the cable with a used one. Blah blah blah, long story short, not quite NIB.
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Offline TexasFlood

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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 14 July 2011, 23:07:50 »
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This is not NIB, the seller said he opened up the board and replaced the cable with a used one. Blah blah blah, long story short, not quite NIB.
Obviously I didn't read that but you're exactly right.
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Offline sickchief

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 02:38:16 »
we don't often see an AT in a box but that doesn't make it NIB by any definition.
I don't see the user's guide/warranty anywhere either
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Offline Daniel Beaver

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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 09:32:36 »
For $200, I would go for it. But it's destined for the stratosphere.
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Offline Rock

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 18 July 2011, 19:04:10 »
is this the only PC compatible model f?
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Offline Sam

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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 18 July 2011, 19:34:59 »
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is this the only PC compatible model f?
Depends what you mean by, "PC compatible".  The original IBM PC from the early 1980s came with a keyboard which was obviously compatible with that PC.  When IBM came out with the PC XT, it used the same keyboard.  When they introduced the IBM PC AT, they changed the protocol, but left the same pinout.  So XT and AT keyboards are not the same.  Then when they introduced the IBM PS/2, they left the protocol the same, but changed the pinout to a smaller connector.

So, assuming you mean "modern PC compatible", if your computer has a PS/2 keyboard connector, it should work with this PC AT keyboard, provided you use the included passive adapter that changes from the large 5-pin connector.  If your computer doesn't have a PS/2 port, or it does but isn't 100% compatible, then you can still use this keyboard via a USB port if you buy a Blue Cube or similar PS/2 to USB converter.

There are active converters that will allow you to use an XT Model F keyboard with a modern PC.  Do a search of this forum for more information on that.  Out of the box, with just a passive adapter, they will not work with a modern PC.

There are also some terminal Model F boards which can be adapted to use with a modern PC.  One of our members, Kishy, has links to some information on this in his signature.  Some models can be fairly easily converted, while others require special electronics.  None of them will work as-is.

So the short answer is, yes, this is the only Model F which will work as-is with a modern PC, provided you have the large 5-pin to PS/2 adapter.
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Offline Sam

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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 18 July 2011, 19:39:31 »
Quote from: Daniel Beaver;380907
For $200, I would go for it. But it's destined for the stratosphere.
I have my doubts that it'll go for big bucks, simply due to the used cable.  I'm into buying up NIB AT's, but doubt I'll be bidding on this one simply due to that.  It's not like you can go down to your nearest computer store and buy a new AT cable to make it new and original.  New AT cables simply don't exist, that I'm aware of, except when attached to a complete NIB AT board.  So I doubt there's much collectors value with this board.  It is however a very nice board, and if I wanted to buy an AT board which I was going to use, I might consider it, knowing it's not had any use and would likely last me the rest of my life.
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Offline DesktopJinx

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 20:32:31 »
Tempting, but $200+ for a keyboard that's not really NIB... what have used F-ATs been going for?
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Offline sordna

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 20:45:42 »
I bet you used your NIB IBM keyboard on a non-IBM computer. Poof, you voided your warranty :-)
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Offline Sam

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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 24 July 2011, 19:17:04 »
Looks as though I was wrong and it did go significantly higher.  Currently at $305 with a bit less than 2 hours to go, with an apparent overseas buyer (using a buying service) being the top bidder.
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Offline sordna

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 24 July 2011, 20:32:28 »
Does anyone know how to view an item for which bidding has ended? If you click something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-Keyboard-Model-M-Small-Clicky-/250839821112
it only shows the item for a split second! I was able to hit "stop" with my browser, but isn't there a better way?
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 24 July 2011, 20:38:37 »
Quote from: sordna;386459
Does anyone know how to view an item for which bidding has ended? If you click something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-Keyboard-Model-M-Small-Clicky-/250839821112
it only shows the item for a split second! I was able to hit "stop" with my browser, but isn't there a better way?


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Offline LETE

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New Model F AT on ebay (Starting bid 199$)
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 24 July 2011, 21:12:16 »
I'm using firefox 5 and it doesn't forward me to another page.
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Offline sordna

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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 24 July 2011, 21:23:18 »
Strange. I'm using Firefox 5 on Linux (tried google-chrome too) and I get a brief glimpse of the item, before it moves to another page that says "Bidding has ended on this item" followed by "More chances to get what you want" and a list of similar items. Maybe I should note that I am not logged into ebay.
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Offline Sam

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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 24 July 2011, 21:27:30 »
Just click the link you gave, then after it flashes for a second, just scroll down the page and you'll see the item.
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Offline sordna

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 24 July 2011, 21:47:53 »
Quote from: Sam;386482
Just click the link you gave, then after it flashes for a second, just scroll down the page and you'll see the item.

Bingo! Thank you!
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