Method #5 will not work without first desoldering plate-mounted Cherry MX Switches

[turkey]

So far the confirmed fixes are...

1. Spraying Insulation Foam. Redpill.
2. Desoldering switch, opening, and resoldering. The Solutor.
3. Dental Floss mod. Ripster.
4. Grease Spring Mod. Idea stage. Unconfirmed though if it worked.
5. Stuff the keyboard with dampening material. Sixty.

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Having personally tried Method #5 on my FILCO Majestouch 104-key keyboard with Cherry MX Blue switches, I can confirm that a lot more work than what is shown in Sixty's G80-3000 thread is needed if the resonance of the metal plate is to be stopped.

What I did was to open the case of my keyboard and place a sheet of dampening material in-between the PCB and the bottom plastic case. After fitting the case back together, the pings continued on as usual. From top-to-bottom, I had metal plate->PCB->dampening material.

In Sixty's G80-3000 mod, he had PCB->dampening material->metal plate. I believe that this is the right order from top-to-bottom since the dampening material must be in contact with the metal plate if any resonance is to be stopped. However, on any keyboard that has plate-mounted switches, putting a sheet of dampening material in-between the PCB and metal plate will not be possible without first desoldering all the switches, cutting holes in the dampening material for all the switches, then resoldering all the switches. Doing this involves a lot of work, and after that one might put everything back together only to find that the pings continue on as usual.

For those that wish to give this a try on a FILCO Majestouch 104-key keyboard, you will need a sheet of dampening material with dimensions 43·5cm x 12·8cm. However, the bottom line is that Method #5 has not yet been confirmed to work for Cherry MX keyboards with plate-mounted switches.

[fohat.digs]

OK, I just have to ask.

Ripster, where did you get that pair?

[hashbaz]

I will remember this thread if I ever open up my Leopold...

Buy a Filco and a Rosewill, no ping.  Buy a Leo, left Ctrl pings like a banshee.  Go figure.

[4op]

Hi guys,

I've experienced ping and fixed it. First of all, I think that pinging and ringing are totally different.

As you showed in the original post, Solutor's video is what I'd describe as pinging

And this is ringing (only video I can find on it): [video=youtube;N54eusgrtoM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54eusgrtoM[/video]

In my experience (only with Cherry MX Filcos), not every mechanical keyboard pings, and those that do will ping on 1 or 2 keys, but not the whole board. However, all mechanical keyboards, or at least all Filcos will ring, as you're probably aware. This is due to the nature of the boards and the springs inside them. BUT, some Filcos will ring, or echo like the inside of a guitar, more than others. Some boards you will only hear the ringing when your ear is right up against the board, and others you will hear it with headphones on, listening to music, and resting the keyboard on some material.

Back to the topic at hand: fixing these problems. For me, I had one key that pinged, just like Solutor's, and I fixed it by taking off the keycap, removing the switch stem (the blue, brown, whatever coloured cross thing), and replacing the spring. If I knew how to solder, I'd have done that because my method involved a lot of... brute force. My spring was bent and crooked which is what I assume caused the pinging, at least for me. I replaced the stem and spring with brand new ones. I think the issue has something to do with the spring not being seated properly or being bent.

As for the loud ringing, I have no idea how to fix. It does get better with time, but will not ever get as good as a regular Filco, and it's really distracting.

Finally, I really don't believe in that McRip Effect stuff. I've used two Filcos side by side and one was noticeable more 'ringy' and 'echoy'.

Sorry for poor grammar, sentence structure, and/or spelling.

[REVENGE]

You could always man up.

[itlnstln]

+1

i almost think that everyone here is typing in isolated basements, or sound isolated rooms, listening for faults in their keyboards.  when i'm at work, i've got my headset on, when i'm at home i'm listening to music.  there's no opportunity to hear anything but my keys bottoming out.  perhaps i'm just lucky to have a couple of good boards?

I think it's perspective.  Us old-timers that used BS and ALPS have a totally different perspective of ping than the younguns.  When I first heard of "ping" I was thinking of a sound similar to BS or ALPS, but then I saw a video of it...

Kids.

[itlnstln]

That video IS a ALPS.  Filco Zero Simplified ALPS to be precise.

Different video.  I was talking about Soarer's (IIRC) MX video.

[itlnstln]

exactly.  this is what happens when mom's start cutting the crusts off sandwiches.  all of a sudden, you're 20+ years old, she still does your laundry, you won't eat anything but white bread, and you're on a keyboard forum complaining about mechanical keyboard making a mechanical noise.

I think quite a few members [strike]live in their parents' basement[/strike] have their parents living with them and graciously allowing them to occupy the main part of the house.

[keyboardlover]

It was KL and Redpill that thought it was a Filco Cherry MX problem.

Noobs.

For a self-proclaimed "expert" you sure are wrong a lot.

I never said the issue was Filco-specific. It's just that when the discussions started, the VAST majority of the complaints were from Filco users. I previously owned a Filco brown tenkeyless with a real ringing problem. If you were typing on it, someone in the next room over could hear it ringing. It was LOUD.

I have not experienced that issue with ANY of my other keyboards. There is a "ping" here and there if I hold my head up close, but nothing that bothers me or others.