Chemical Question

[shogrran]

You guessed! I didn't read the wiki.

I have a question regarding if anyone of you has tried a combination of the following substances/chemicals on your keyboards and what was the effect?


propylene glycol
dipostassium glycyrrhizate
sodium lactate
sodium pca
betaine
methylparaben
cetylpyridinium chloride
phenoxyethanol
etidronic acid
tetrasodium etidronate
ppg-8-ceteth-20


I am not asking about the effect of the individual chemicals but the effect when they are mixed and applied to your keyboard. Did it have any adverse effects? Did it have zero effect? Did your keyboard fade?

[Findecanor]

What a weird request. Do you really expect anyone to have understanding of what all of those are, have them in their home, mix it and test it for your benefit?

Those are ingredients from some kind of lotion, right?
No, I have not noticed any adverse effects from hand lotion on the keyboard.

[hazeluff]

Whoa....I think its safe to just say. Don't put weird stuff on your keyboard.

[limmy]

When I researched effects of solvents on plastics, I could order plastics in the following way: ABSAlso, if your keyboard or keycaps are coated with something or are painted, they are more prone to damage by chemicals in my experience.

This is a forum post about chemical compatibility of ABS, PBT, POM plastics in Korean http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3602591
And I referred to following two excellent sources of information on chemical compatibility,
ABS, POM(Acetal/Derlin) http://www.coleparmer.com/Chemical-Resistance
POM, PBT http://www.solusii.com/PDFs/Issue6-SMP-index.pdf

I hope it helped.

[shogrran]

What a weird request. Do you really expect anyone to have understanding of what all of those are, have them in their home, mix it and test it for your benefit?

Those are ingredients from some kind of lotion, right?
No, I have not noticed any adverse effects from hand lotion on the keyboard.

Gee... I expected violent reactions.

No its not some kind of lotion. But that would be close enough.

These are ingredients of simple Baby-wipes. You don't necessarily have to have them separately and mix them. It comes as is.

I figured if its safe for the face of a baby it should be safe for your keyboard? -- but I doubted that.

[clickclack]

Well the last time I mixed those chemicals my...

Moving on-
In all honesty a more direct question would have been any adverse effects from using baby wipes on a keyboard.
Straight and simple. You don't tend to get many answers when the question is very obscure. LoL

Baby wipes should be quite fine on a keyboard.
Concerns more or less arise when chemicals are left to-
1) pool for long periods of time
2) left to harden
3) are abbrasive
4) soften
5) oxidize
6) contaminate surface structure (texture and/or UV compatibility)

The chemicals in baby wipes are in very small concentrations and therefore weak.
Unfortunately there are many things to consider with keycaps since they
can have and/or undergo the following-

1) coatings
2) wear
3) porous structures (lasered)
4) deep texture
5) oils
6) abbrasion

When in doubt do as we all do, test a small hidden area and/or don't leave residue.

Hope that helps.

=)

[shogrran]

Well the last time I mixed those chemicals my...

Moving on-
In all honesty a more direct question would have been any adverse effects from using baby wipes on a keyboard.
Straight and simple. You don't tend to get many answers when the question is very obscure. LoL

Baby wipes should be quite fine on a keyboard.
Concerns more or less arise when chemicals are left to-
1) pool for long periods of time
2) left to harden
3) are abbrasive
4) soften
5) oxidize
6) contaminate surface structure (texture and/or UV compatibility)

The chemicals in baby wipes are in very small concentrations and therefore weak.
Unfortunately there are many things to consider with keycaps since they
can have and/or undergo the following-

1) coatings
2) wear
3) porous structures (lasered)
4) deep texture
5) oils
6) abbrasion

When in doubt do as we all do, test a small hidden area and/or don't leave residue.

Hope that helps.

=)

I don't know about your location, but the baby wipes from where I come from differ usually as they differ in brands. I chose this specific one because of two things.. one this specific baby wipes brand is the cheapest available yet the quality of the fiber used is good and two, this is the most basic baby wipe I could find. The other baby wipes contain unnecessary fragrances and moisturizers and other stuff that wouldn't really matter specially on keyboards (I doubt those even matter in human skin as well)

To be honest with you.. I created several threads here and in other forums. And I have had received quicker/faster and more replies when 1. I used an obscure title 2. The content isn't so specific. Funny eh? See the last thread I created took about near a few hours to get a response. This one only needed a few minutes. trolololol

I did try it though. Nothing much happened but I guess its only because its the first time I tried to use it. There is one adverse effect though... the keys felt ever so slightly greasy.

[flyball]

You guessed! I didn't read the wiki.

I have a question regarding if anyone of you has tried a combination of the following substances/chemicals on your keyboards and what was the effect?


propylene glycol
dipostassium glycyrrhizate
sodium lactate
sodium pca
betaine
methylparaben
cetylpyridinium chloride
phenoxyethanol
etidronic acid
tetrasodium etidronate
ppg-8-ceteth-20


I am not asking about the effect of the individual chemicals but the effect when they are mixed and applied to your keyboard. Did it have any adverse effects? Did it have zero effect? Did your keyboard fade?

what

[clickclack]

I don't know about your location, but the baby wipes from where I come from differ usually as they differ in brands. I chose this specific one because of two things.. one this specific baby wipes brand is the cheapest available yet the quality of the fiber used is good and two, this is the most basic baby wipe I could find. The other baby wipes contain unnecessary fragrances and moisturizers and other stuff that wouldn't really matter specially on keyboards (I doubt those even matter in human skin as well)

To be honest with you.. I created several threads here and in other forums. And I have had received quicker/faster and more replies when 1. I used an obscure title 2. The content isn't so specific. Funny eh? See the last thread I created took about near a few hours to get a response. This one only needed a few minutes. trolololol

I did try it though. Nothing much happened but I guess its only because its the first time I tried to use it. There is one adverse effect though... the keys felt ever so slightly greasy.

"the baby wipes where I come from" LOL  XD

I do agree with oddities bringing more attention and perhaps faster recognition (replies). But if the replies often come in as a question themselves (as in WTH?). Even if quick, then I don't know how helpful that is. No worries though, I just mentioned it to help you get useful replies. I didn't know you already had a formula for getting attention. Haahaa, we all have our own I suppose.  =)

Regarding that last part, as I mentioned previously, I would wipe off any remaining residue.

=)

[limmy]

Well, I at least learned I am Number One Keyboard Scientist On The Planet compared to that KBDMania guy.

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3602591

Here's why:


Dude.  You'll never learn anything from trusting the InterToobs.  You have to test it yourself.

ripster,

According to you,
1. any information you create is also distributed by InterToobs
2. one would have to test it regardless (what is the point? You already know some chemicals will damage some plastics.)

I would trust and reference experiments done by chemical companies rather than one done by you. I cannot disagree more on that I will never learn anything from information on internet. There are valuable information out there from reputable sources!

Also, please don't quote Google translate if you don't read Korean. That is just stupid.

The post about solvents ( http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3602591 ) was intended as a sequel comparing different materials used for keycaps. This is first article ( http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3591367 ) comparing ABS, PBT, POM. I focus on several physical characteristics such as specific gravity, water absorption, wear rate, and coef of friction.

Edit: I tried Google translate on my Korean posts. It is pretty much unreadable or in most part useless. I feel sorry for anyone who tried to read my post. However, you may find references useful as they are in English.

[flyball]

[REVENGE]

Solvents, detergents, blah blah blah. Find some piece of **** ABS case, cut into parts, soak in different solutions. Not sure how you're going to get those compounds in pure form cheaply.

[shogrran]

"the baby wipes where I come from" LOL  XD

I do agree with oddities bringing more attention and perhaps faster recognition (replies). But if the replies often come in as a question themselves (as in WTH?). Even if quick, then I don't know how helpful that is. No worries though, I just mentioned it to help you get useful replies. I didn't know you already had a formula for getting attention. Haahaa, we all have our own I suppose.  =)

Regarding that last part, as I mentioned previously, I would wipe off any remaining residue.

=)

Well it keeps the thread up - even if the replies are just questions themselves. Well obviously a lot didn't read at least about 4 replies after the initial post but that's OK. They still keep the thread up for the expert ones to reply.

I was serious in saying "the baby wipes where I come from" not in a lascivious way. The baby wipes brands here have all the different ingredients from brand to brand. Even the simplest ones do not just contain plain water. I don't even know why they have to include anything other than water. Maybe to keep the moisture longer?

I thought baby wipes could be a good alternative and quick way to clean computer peripherals. I lied in saying I didn't completely read the wiki, I did browse through it at some point but I don't think I saw anything about simple baby wipes. I have mentioned it in past threads; I live in the third world where even 90-99 percent alcohol is hard to find. We don't have access to a lot of supposedly easy to get cleaning solvents and materials. I mentioned in one of my past posts that it took me months before I could find a shop that even knows what an air-duster is and the quality isn't even good. I have been searching high and low for some glass cleaner or computer wipes but none to be found yet as well.

[shogrran]

Solvents, detergents, blah blah blah. Find some piece of **** ABS case, cut into parts, soak in different solutions. Not sure how you're going to get those compounds in pure form cheaply.

You could get it cheaply... already mixed... in the form of baby wipes.

[eth0s]

propylene glycol
dipostassium glycyrrhizate
sodium lactate
sodium pca
betaine
methylparaben
cetylpyridinium chloride
phenoxyethanol
etidronic acid
tetrasodium etidronate
ppg-8-ceteth-20

WOW, this is goof right?  Is this an attempt to troll?  If not, well I don't know what to say.  This is a list of the ingredients in a hand lotion, just like Findecanor said above.  My advice to the OP is to stop masturbating in front of your computer, and you won't get so much hand lotion on your keyboard (or other fluids).  Wow, this is gross.  I'm pretty sure this is a troll.  But then again, maybe legitballin really pooped on his keyboard by accident.  Who knows?

[lorem3k]

WOW, this is goof right?  Is this an attempt to troll?  If not, well I don't know what to say.  This is a list of the ingredients in a hand lotion, just like Findecanor said above.  My advice to the OP is to stop masturbating in front of your computer, and you won't get so much hand lotion on your keyboard (or other fluids).  Wow, this is gross.  I'm pretty sure this is a troll.  But then again, maybe legitballin really pooped on his keyboard by accident.  Who knows?

This is the real reason keyboard trays were invented. Push the tray in, have your fun, clean up, take it back out; no harm done.

[REVENGE]

You could get it cheaply... already mixed... in the form of baby wipes.

Yeah exactly. Already mixed.

Problem?

[shogrran]

Yeah exactly. Already mixed.

Problem?

Yep. Problem is the first post says not interested in the individual effects. Have you tried using baby wipes on your keyboard yet? Post the effects on your keyboard after a few months of use.

[shogrran]

WOW, this is goof right?  Is this an attempt to troll?  If not, well I don't know what to say.  This is a list of the ingredients in a hand lotion, just like Findecanor said above.  My advice to the OP is to stop masturbating in front of your computer, and you won't get so much hand lotion on your keyboard (or other fluids).  Wow, this is gross.  I'm pretty sure this is a troll.  But then again, maybe legitballin really pooped on his keyboard by accident.  Who knows?

Well my advice to you however is to start reading at least 4 more posts Because its NOT specifically the ingredients of hand lotion although lotion may include some of those ingredients. Read further and you'll discover what these ingredients make.

[mbc]

I figured if its safe for the face of a baby

You're holding your baby upside down!