Author Topic: Joysticks! (Read 44331 times)

digitalleftovers · « **Reply #50 on:** Mon, 07 March 2011, 12:23:44 »

Quote from: Ekaros;306943

My MS Force Feedback 2 works still... So how come MS hasn't make any mechanical keyboards

Speaking on behalf of a company that has a call center, I'm not going to be able to convince them to spend $60+ per keyboard vs. ~$10 until someone files an RSI claim, and I don't beleive that that thinking is unique to my workplace. Keyboards have not been a focus, even in the industries that use them most, for many years. The market wanted sub-$20 boards and manufacturers made them.

Its strange to think that we have gamers to thank for reintroducing them to the mainstream (or starting to).

kill will · « **Reply #51 on:** Mon, 07 March 2011, 12:25:40 »

i am gonna build a keyboard out of a coffee table and very large rectangular happ buttons.

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #52 on:** Tue, 08 March 2011, 07:57:26 »

Have a few but this is the last I got few years ago.

Saitek X52 Pro... Which I used mainly to fly choppers in Battlefield II

Grendel · « **Reply #53 on:** Sun, 24 April 2011, 00:36:25 »

What can I say... Playing Descent uses up joysticks :biggrin1:

CeeSA · « **Reply #54 on:** Sun, 24 April 2011, 09:01:08 »

ah, good boy! i love the sidewinder 3d pro. it's a shame this joystick is not compatibel to normal gameport usb converter

Grendel · « **Reply #55 on:** Sun, 24 April 2011, 19:25:48 »

Quote from: CeeSA;336510

ah, good boy! i love the sidewinder 3d pro. it's a shame this joystick is not compatibel to normal gameport usb converter

Yep, spent about a year trying to find a 3D Pro replacement. Ended up developing a USB converter specifically for the 3D Pro, based on V-USB and later on Teensy boards. Very easy to copy

CeeSA · « **Reply #56 on:** Mon, 25 April 2011, 10:00:38 »

could you help me with that? how about to make an controller for me?
i would pay good

Arc'xer · « **Reply #57 on:** Mon, 25 April 2011, 18:14:03 »

With the amount of money you spent on so many joysticks and consider you "use"(not sure if you mean wear out or rage break) them up.

You might have well just invested it in a high end joystick like the CH product or something.

curzen · « **Reply #58 on:** Mon, 25 April 2011, 21:15:33 »

too bad that no one makes a clone of the old black/red Gravis joystick

Grendel · « **Reply #59 on:** Mon, 25 April 2011, 23:35:27 »

Quote from: CeeSA;336928

could you help me with that? how about to make an controller for me?
i would pay good

Check out the link above, it's really very easy to copy.

Quote from: Arc'xer;337193

With the amount of money you spent on so many joysticks and consider you "use"(not sure if you mean wear out or rage break) them up.

You might have well just invested it in a high end joystick like the CH product or something.

Playing Descent 3 wears joysticks out. At ~8hr/week gaming, the pots in a Logitech 3D Pro Extreme last about 2 weeks to 3 month max. CH sticks are better, but don't have the "twist" and a rather long throw. The SideWinder series sticks have optical sensors, and the 3D Pro has an unique short throw (while maintaining accuracy.) One of those usually lasts me two years (replacing the hat switches twice) before they become too slopy. I got those in the picture each for $13 shipped from eBay, not too bad for a lifetime supply

CeeSA · « **Reply #60 on:** Tue, 26 April 2011, 05:44:02 »

i can't even get a PBC15F or something similar here in germany

NamelessPFG · « **Reply #61 on:** Sun, 01 May 2011, 10:13:29 »

I didn't think Grendel himself would show up here...

Somehow, I don't think that's his entire joystick collection. I could've sworn he mentioned something about owning a Logitech WingMan Interceptor and trying to develop a special adapter that would work with Logitech ADI (yet another digital gameport interface), but that was years ago, and I have yet to see any results. There's an open-source Linux driver for the ADI sticks floating around, so I'm pretty sure there's enough understood about the protocol to make a hardware USB adapter.

I've got two Interceptors lying around unused because of that one little problem. What a shame, since they're probably the best sticks Logitech ever made. All you could possibly want out of them would be USB and rudder twist. (The later WingMan Strike Force 3D would've been a decent follow-up if they didn't completely botch the pots/gimbals and the centering force, resulting in me using a MS SWFFB2 as my FFB stick of choice despite missing one badly-needed hat switch.)

As for other controllers...I spotted a Logitech CyberMan 2 amidst all those Microsoft sticks. I've wondered what it's like to play Descent with one of those. (However, I could've sworn that this was before Logitech bought up Labtec, and by proxy, Spacetec IMC. Back then, Spacetec favored the ball/sphere shape, but ever since they became the Logitech-owned 3Dconnexion, they've moved to the puck shape more reminiscent of the CyberMan 2.)

RoboKrikit · « **Reply #62 on:** Fri, 17 June 2011, 15:34:37 »

I did a writeup over at SRK on getting Cherry microswitches (any standard microswitch, really) into Japanese buttons like Sanwas and Seimitsus. Check it out if you're interested in the Cherry tactile feel in Japanese buttons.

500_pts · « **Reply #63 on:** Fri, 17 June 2011, 20:35:52 »

LONG time (almost 2 years) lurker, 1st time poster. Simply to say that this thread is all wrong. Needs to be a precision pro porn thread. Mw 2-4 all day, every day, best joystick ever.

ktkr · « **Reply #64 on:** Tue, 28 June 2011, 08:37:40 »

Recently acquired this.

It's the official Mushihimesama Futari Ver 1.5 stick from Hori. It has best arcade stick, Seimitsu LS-32, by default, but the buttons are super **** chinese crap, so I swapped in some Sanwa OSBFs. The joystick ball is Sanwa's meshball; it's a way cool waste of money.

I also have the Mad Catz SFIV FightStick Tournament Edition with Seimitsu LS-32 but I can't be arsed to take a pic of it because it's gathering dust in the closet.

chel- · « **Reply #65 on:** Tue, 28 June 2011, 09:34:16 »

Nice. For a very brief period of time I got into arcade sticks for SF. I have the madcatz se but I replaced the stick and buttons with sanwa parts. Its really great but I'm still terrible with it

I was actually very close to buying the meshball for mine as well but I think it was too expensive (if I remember correctly it was a limited time thing right?)

RoboKrikit · « **Reply #66 on:** Wed, 29 June 2011, 15:25:11 »

They were a limited run for Per at Akihabarashop, but they were so popular that they kept making them. I love balltops and have a bunch. I have even weighed my balls; the figures are as follows:

Seimitsu LB-30: 17g
Seimitsu LB-35: 25g
Seimitsu LB-39: 30g
Sanwa LB-35: 27g
Sanwa LB-35 mesh: 27g
Sanwa LB-30-N: 29g (32g with adapter)
Sanwa LB-45: 52g (55g with adapter)

NamelessPFG · « **Reply #67 on:** Thu, 14 July 2011, 12:48:04 »

Got my Seimitsu LS-56-01 today!

With the octogonal restrictor gate, it's pretty much everything I was hoping for. Nice, short throw and highly responsive, plus the gate feels nice. The microswitches also feel MUCH better than on those Mad Catz JLF knockoffs; more of a substantial feeling when pushing against them. Could be the levers.

That said, I never figured I would want just a little more deadzone out of this stick, which could be done with a smaller actuator. I might still get used to it with some slight changes in technique.

All I need now is a custom casing, some iL convex buttons with Cherry D4 microswitches in a straight layout (which I'm not going to get with my TvC stick casings, sadly), and an MC Cthulhu. All of that paired up with the LS-56 would make for an ideal stick.

AlleyViper · « **Reply #68 on:** Tue, 09 August 2011, 17:27:20 »

I still have a Sidewinder 3D Pro (with lots of use in X-W Vs Tie and X-W Alliance online

), fortunately it's still connectable to creative pci cards and sometimes on my SS7s AWE64.
My current stick is collecting dust for some years, as time to play IL2 v4.xxm is next to none. An Über HOTAS Cougar (original reinforced gimbals mod), paired with the obligatory Simped Vario/Pro for prop/aerial gunnery sims (cupped, longer throw pedals). Between those I've had a Sidewinder Precision 2 until it broke and a Saitek X45 (for a very short time).

darksakul · « **Reply #69 on:** Tue, 17 April 2012, 01:10:09 »

How is this for a joystick?

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Customized Hori Real Arcade Pro EX modified to be a Twin Stick controller for Virtual-On
I got a good friend from SRK Tech Talk to make me a custom top panel to mount the 2 flight sticks on the Hori body.

here is how I build the thing
shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/dual-stick-twin-stick-guide-and-work-log.142808/

Hente · « **Reply #70 on:** Tue, 17 April 2012, 05:06:58 »

Wow, that looks pretty damn sick. I was thinking of doing the same for VOOT but I sold my xbox.

Top is just an SE w/ OBSF-30/JLF/art swap, bottom two are custom builds w/ JLFs & PS-14-KNs.

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