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Offline Over_Kill

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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 19 October 2011, 10:53:23 »
Damn you replied fast.. you check these forums as much as i check my email here at work :P nice wiki by the way, glad i could help :).

Also I ran across your metal ball thread in your sig. If you got one out of 6061 aluminum it would weigh about 361 grams.

Offline CreamyNutButter

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« Reply #51 on: Wed, 11 April 2012, 15:28:37 »
Using the Kensington Orbit without a scroll ring, it takes 1.5 spins to cross my screen at 1360*768 at 6/11 mouse sensitivity on Windows XP 64-bit.  I never cared about DPI to be honest.
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Offline All The Fire

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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 11 April 2012, 23:11:03 »
Quote from: ripster;418341
The CST has some but on a trackball it's quite handy.

Not sure why the mice guys always have such a fit about acceleration anyway.  Sounds overblown as an issue since my MX518 is fine as a gaming mouse.
Probably just due to the high amount of acceleration Windows forces. The amount windows forces cuts down consistent twitch accuracy, I notice it just in moving around folders in explorer. On paper it sounds like an amazing implementation, but you do lose consistency.

I find small amounts perfectly adjustable though, whatever is in the G9x causes me no issues for gaming. I was under the impression the 518 was highly regarded for no acceleration? I even improved my CoD game going from the 518 to the G9x.

I'm a little intrigued by the acceleration discussion earlier in the thread regarding the slimblade, as I can't say I've found any, or as much as one user suggested (as a G9x user there may be very little there that that I find normal), with it turned off in windows mouse settings and turned off in trackballworks. And I'm using it one notch lower than the default in trackballworks so I tend to flick the ball pretty hard if I need to travel some distance, then again it's also hard to tell exactly how far you have flicked it or consistently flick it the same distance... But I am now considering the idea of acceleration on a trackball, particularly because of the slimblade ball being so exposed, at higher senstivity settings so as to get around easier I found I was just nudging it off the mark when I went to click.

I'm also curious as to why you have referred to the slimblade as slingblade in your spreadsheet. Either way I'm thinking I'll take a measurement too, out of curiosity.

Offline stingrae

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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 12 April 2012, 05:03:42 »
Quote from: ripster;418341
The CST has some but on a trackball it's quite handy.

Not sure why the mice guys always have such a fit about acceleration anyway.  Sounds overblown as an issue since my MX518 is fine as a gaming mouse.


Trolling?

The mx518 has prediction and no acceleration. Windows does however have built in acceleration.
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Offline Surly73

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« Reply #54 on: Thu, 12 April 2012, 09:25:57 »
Quote from: CreamyNutButter;573186
Using the Kensington Orbit without a scroll ring, it takes 1.5 spins to cross my screen at 1360*768 at 6/11 mouse sensitivity on Windows XP 64-bit.  I never cared about DPI to be honest.

Using a Kensington ExpertMouse set to 6/11 with no accel in W7 x86 I can move 90% of the way across my primary office monitor (admittedly only 1680x1050) with one hand swipe with no lift.  (i.e. rotate the ball starting with index finger and ending with ring finger, or opposite depending on direction).

Seems just about perfect to me, I don't care if the number "sucks" more than the needlessly high DPI "gaming" "professional" mice of today.

At home I use 1920x1200 and have no complaints either.  If I needed to move rapidly around 2560x1600 or more, you can always flick the ball and let momentum help you move large distances.  I do this to move to my secondary display at the office.
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Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 12 April 2012, 12:07:37 »
I've been using my MTO for about 10 years, and jumping between the MTO at home, and the CST LTrak, the DPI difference goes un-noticed. That's not the say the MTO's DPI is great, but I definitely don't go home and say "whoa this is wildly inaccurate!!". With mouse acceleration, I don't really have trouble stopping my cursor directly over small icons, or operating the pen tool in Photoshop.

Offline All The Fire

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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 12 April 2012, 18:39:28 »
Yeah, I don't see DPI as a major factor in trackballs, you can't run out of deck space, flicking it a couple times is no where near as much trouble as lifting and recentering your mouse. I'm a high DPI mouse user but I'm not concerned with a much lower DPI on the trackball, but if you can get it up and still keep it steady and use it accuractely, why not.