Extra Curly Fries Type 62

[kaiserreich]

Springs, gold plated 62g.
I call it the curly fries.


source: http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&document_srl=3741711
Comes in : 55g, 59g, 62g, 68g

[MyNameIsFinn]

What do you plan on using these for?

[kaiserreich]

These are not mine

62g makes better Ergo Clears than brown springs. That was what the Koreans found out anyway.
I'm quite happy with my 65g + RO59 Ergo Clear.

[modulor]

Interesting...

[kaiserreich]

So these spring numbers are the bottoming out forces?

If so 68g is the one to get.  Otherwise brown=red=blue~62g.  

Anything else are 5 minute old McDonald's Fries.

Sent From Brother Ripster's iPad

I think they are referring to the bottoming out forces.

I have 65g for my "ergo clears", they feel much responsive.
Have not tried the 62 yet.

All this while i thought the brown/red/blue are 55g. And 62g is something heavier.

[limmy]

Ripster, if you want to discuss the springs, why would you follow me where I post and ask me about the springs I do not know about??? (See here) Please delete the off topic posts because it is like pollution(not needed and harmful by its existence).

You can see here to see what factors are considered in determining a compression spring.

Obviously, material used (type of metal used) matters. I heard from a KBDMania member who works in the metal industry say that if a spring is coated method used for the coating would affect uniformness of the springs. If you use certain coating procedure the coated springs could behave rather randomly. You always complain about Korean Hanzo steel or whatever, but as you can see in the spring calculator website(which is from a US website, a website you can trust I suppose!) different types of stainless steel would result in different spring coefficient and max load. This is not against Hooke's law. Just different max loads and spring constant for different materials used. I don't understand why you don't understand this.

Moreover, max load of a spring cannot be measured inside a Cherry switch because the spring never reaches the minimum length inside the switch. The slider touches the bottom switch housing so that the spring cannot be fully compressed inside the switch. So, your measurement of max force of a spring is not correct. In particular the spring specs discussed here e.g. 62g is max load, not bottoming out force which is specific to Cherry switch. It is reasonable to deduce a spring spec is not specific to Cherry switch, no?

[mkawa]

woah, those came in 68g? very interested in trying those. too bad they sold out

[limmy]

I'd be more interested if anybody would tell me how they feel in a real switch, not some lab.

Feel is so subjective. So hard to describe and even if it is correctly described, it may not be the same for everyone. Hence the description of the feel is not as useful as objective information. However, if the feel is comparison between different combinations, then it would be more useful because the description of the feel would have more objective information.

Any way, why are you suddenly interested in the feel, rather than numbers? What you described above is all about the lab stuff.

According to people who designed the springs, they felt good. The group buy organizers produced several samples and picked the ones they liked. Most of the springs were tested on black sliders during the testing period, (I suppose, because custom black switches are popular among KDBMania members) so I can tell you they are the chosen ones to be used with the black sliders.

[Soarer]

Do they have somewhere the spring rate and free length parameters for their springs? Or measurements of the force for at least a couple of compressed lengths? Otherwise, I must criticise for the use of a single value to describe a spring!

[limmy]

Do they have somewhere the spring rate and free length parameters for their springs? Or measurements of the force for at least a couple of compressed lengths? Otherwise, I must criticise for the use of a single value to describe a spring!

Unfortunately max load is the single number distinguishing the springs along with group buy organizer's name. However, max load is the number that is most important for normal users. They would not really care about other detailed information (spring constant, initial load when inside a Cherry switch or free length) even though the designers would know those numbers.

There are several different custom springs that have max load of 62gf but the words are that they are all slightly different. I have no experience in those springs, but I conjecture the differences are from differences in spring constants (maybe overall length difference too but they pretty much look alike).