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Offline Rafen

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« on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 05:50:22 »
I was on the site and it looks like he got more stock in of the FC200 keyboards as well as the FC500. I don't think he is going to be selling the FC700 anytime soon. I did notice one thing though he only have one Realforce full-size and its out of stock with no ETA. Do you guys think he might be getting some of the 104's in?

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« Reply #1 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 06:25:42 »
Looks the same to me, how can you tell they got more stock?

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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 07:10:17 »
Looks the same to me, how can you tell they got more stock?

Definitely doesn't look the same to me.  There are many less Leopolds "Out of Stock" than before.   I also don't think that he will be selling the FC700 anytime soon.

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 12:48:22 »
I wrote in and asked about the realforce 104 keyboards, and I was told they were coming and to subscribe to their newsletter.  Basically I've got nothing :-/
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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 13:14:23 »
Yeah I subscribed to that newsletter and the only time it gets sent out is when he has clacks.

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 14:57:51 »
Why no FC700R?
It's been a long time since they were released in Korea :(

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 17:37:56 »
Yeah its unfortunate.  I love my FC200R so much, so I lust after the FC700R.  Want to try those PBT keycaps.  On the other hand, it has an incompatible spacebar with pretty much every keycap set.  Oh well.

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 18:10:26 »
Why no FC700R?
It's been a long time since they were released in Korea :(
Because socking RC700R now will guarantee older stocks won't ever get sold.

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 18:13:50 »
Why no FC700R?
It's been a long time since they were released in Korea :(
Because socking RC700R now will guarantee older stocks won't ever get sold.
Would make sense if they hadn't just restocked the 200s.

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 19:12:18 »
I doubt EK made the decision to forego the 700 in favor of stocking more 200s without a sound business reason.

Interestingly, the Topre 103UW seems to have been unlisted completely. There isn't even an "out of stock" message; it's just gone. Hopefully that means the 104s will appear shortly.

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 20:54:34 »
I wish I was made out of money.

If I were I would send the owners of Ducky and Leopold each a KMAC with browns and blues.

So they can see how good a Cherry style stabilizer could be.

Heh, did you pay $99 retail for a fully assembled and packaged KMAC?  I don't think so.

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 11 September 2012, 21:05:06 »
I like the build quality of Leopold I just really don't like the fact that the spacebars aren't compatible with all sets.

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 12 September 2012, 22:15:40 »
I wish they would restock the white otaku TKL leopolds in mx blue..

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« Reply #13 on: Fri, 14 September 2012, 13:34:41 »
I'm around:) Some models of the FC200s have been restocked, mainly because the supply and quality is consistent and some corporate customers specify this model. The FC700 has been evaluated, I actually had some input on its design and was present and optimistic when the first prototypes rolled off the line, but there have been several very unlucky supply issues that have made it unattractive from a business perspective. I don't want to jump into a new product, and the headaches that that entails, until these issues are cleared up. So it's unfortunately not a cut and dry "we need to clear out old stock first" business decision. In the meantime we're working on new products and we have replaced the components in the FC200s with better Japanese made LEDs, USB connectors, and condensers and they now ship with a nicer EK 2m cable that has a Japanese mini-B connector as well.

I should mention, I started EK because I cared about the quality of keyboards available on the market and despised false advertising practices, so while there are compromises that must be made at different price points, I feel I'm not holding up to this founding ideal unless I continue to increase my standards. Hopefully you can have some confidence in my judgement and expect good things to come!

Taking photos of the 104U now:)
« Last Edit: Sat, 15 September 2012, 02:40:03 by elitekeyboards »

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 14 September 2012, 13:36:31 »
I have to ask will we ever see dip switches on a full size realforce board?

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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 14 September 2012, 13:47:19 »
I have to ask will we ever see dip switches on a full size realforce board?

Funny you ask. The reason we've taken so long to introduce the 104U wasn't to clear out 103U stock; rather, we didn't like that the 104U case tooling hid the DIP switch and we were working with Topre to find an solution that didn't require the user to open the entire keyboard case to access it.

Unfortunately, the only solution to come of all the back and forth was to remove mention of the DIP switch from literature...however, I will let you know that the functionality is still present on 104U boards even if the DIP switch isn't soldered to the board (some boards will have it some may not). Should you be so skilled; the functionality can be restored, but you will be voiding the warranty.

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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 14 September 2012, 14:43:22 »
I have to ask will we ever see dip switches on a full size realforce board?

Funny you ask. The reason we've taken so long to introduce the 104U wasn't to clear out 103U stock; rather, we didn't like that the 104U case tooling hid the DIP switch and we were working with Topre to find an solution that didn't require the user to open the entire keyboard case to access it.

Unfortunately, the only solution to come of all the back and forth was to remove mention of the DIP switch from literature...however, I will let you know that the functionality is still present on 104U boards even if the DIP switch isn't soldered to the board (some boards will have it some may not). Should you be so skilled; the functionality can be restored, but you will be voiding the warranty.
So what does this dip switch do? Is it one that does that does the firmware upgrade or is it what im hopeing for, one that swaps caps and ctrl. If it swaps them you can   count me in for a 104UB 45g and some colored keycaps.


elitekeyboards - are you planning on offering replacement space bars for the fc500?  The ones in your store are fc200 only.
I can make some if you cant find a replacement.

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 14 September 2012, 15:38:11 »
Will you be stocking the new Leopolds with the better keys?

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« Reply #18 on: Fri, 14 September 2012, 15:41:06 »
I've also been looking forward to the 104s coming in stock and plan to pick one up as soon as I can set aside the funds. It's good to hear that you have a working, healthy relationship with your OEMs.

So what does this dip switch do? Is it one that does that does the firmware upgrade or is it what im hopeing for, one that swaps caps and ctrl. If it swaps them you can   count me in for a 104UB 45g and some colored keycaps.

While I fully support making Caps Lock into a Ctrl key, why do you care if it's done on the keyboard or in software? It's built in for Linux and OS X and Microsoft has their own fix for this on Windows [1].

[1] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897578.aspx

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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 14 September 2012, 19:42:12 »
I've also been looking forward to the 104s coming in stock and plan to pick one up as soon as I can set aside the funds. It's good to hear that you have a working, healthy relationship with your OEMs.

So what does this dip switch do? Is it one that does that does the firmware upgrade or is it what im hopeing for, one that swaps caps and ctrl. If it swaps them you can   count me in for a 104UB 45g and some colored keycaps.

While I fully support making Caps Lock into a Ctrl key, why do you care if it's done on the keyboard or in software? It's built in for Linux and OS X and Microsoft has their own fix for this on Windows [1].

[1] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897578.aspx
I would like it hardware implemented so every computer I plug my keyboard into it is like that because on most computers I ran domly have to use in college do not allow you  to install or change anything. Also when using the keyboard via KVM I dont need to worry about software or anyuthing of the like.

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 14 September 2012, 20:32:03 »
What are some of the things that need to be fixed on the Leopold FC700? From what people have said about them they are amazing.

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 17 September 2012, 01:21:15 »
Still would like to know what the dip switch or switches do on the 104.

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 19 September 2012, 00:36:21 »
Also would like to know about unifiom 104 units

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 01 October 2012, 14:42:47 »
So what does this dip switch do? Is it one that does that does the firmware upgrade or is it what im hopeing for, one that swaps caps and ctrl. If it swaps them you can   count me in for a 104UB 45g and some colored keycaps.

The DIP switch is similar to the 87U, including the ability to swap Left Ctrl and Caps. The firmware switch is present as well, just like other Topre keyboards.


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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 01 October 2012, 14:47:38 »
So what does this dip switch do? Is it one that does that does the firmware upgrade or is it what im hopeing for, one that swaps caps and ctrl. If it swaps them you can   count me in for a 104UB 45g and some colored keycaps.

The DIP switch is similar to the 87U, including the ability to swap Left Ctrl and Caps. The firmware switch is present as well, just like other Topre keyboards.
thats great to hear. Will you be getting any uniform fullsize boards and are the dip switches specifically removed for your shipments or do you think there is a possibility i would get one with a dip switch in it?

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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 01 October 2012, 14:49:38 »
What is the difference between the 87U "EK" edition and the regular 45g uniform black/black Realforce?

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 01 October 2012, 15:10:00 »
The DIP switch is similar to the 87U, including the ability to swap Left Ctrl and Caps. The firmware switch is present as well, just like other Topre keyboards.
thats great to hear. Will you be getting any uniform fullsize boards and are the dip switches specifically removed for your shipments or do you think there is a possibility i would get one with a dip switch in it?

The uniform fullsize boards were under great consideration, but are now on hold. Most often when you see a Realforce board that isn't a plain-jane variable layout board then it's the progeny of some distributor who is "OK" with sitting on a load of Topre keyboards for longer than is comfortable. We have have quite a few different Topre models available right now, so we're investing our resources in other projects in the near future.

What is the difference between the 87U "EK" edition and the regular 45g uniform black/black Realforce?

We wanted a standard 45g layout board for the US market that came in at a lower price. So we ordered these in bulk, and while we were at it we fixed up kerning and stretched text issues with the Realforce standard English legends and picked out some new red LEDs that don't shine out between the keycaps; these are not the same red LEDs that are used in the 10th anniversary edition 87Us...those shine out between keys...We're very specific about such details. Someone should be for this money.

P.S. You can see the small changes in the legends and the obvious change to such keys as the new Enter key here.

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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 01 October 2012, 15:55:28 »
Good to know.

Sitting at a 10th AE right now.  The light does shine between the keys.  I assume the stretched text you were talking about is on the PgUp/PgDn and Ins/Del keys.  Didn't really take notice before but now I will, dammit! :p

Look forward to getting an EK edition when I need a new one!

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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 01 October 2012, 17:03:31 »
The FC700 has been evaluated, I actually had some input on its design and was present and optimistic when the first prototypes rolled off the line, but there have been several very unlucky supply issues that have made it unattractive from a business perspective. I don't want to jump into a new product, and the headaches that that entails, until these issues are cleared up.

I'm still a little confused about this statement. So "supply issue" means that they're not able to mass produce these yet? Or by issue, do you mean there is actually something wrong with the keyboard? If this is the case, then exactly what is wrong with these new Leopolds? I haven't heard any complaints about them.

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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 01 October 2012, 17:19:59 »
Switch shortage anyone?
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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 03 October 2012, 17:27:32 »
So what does this dip switch do? Is it one that does that does the firmware upgrade or is it what im hopeing for, one that swaps caps and ctrl. If it swaps them you can   count me in for a 104UB 45g and some colored keycaps.

The DIP switch is similar to the 87U, including the ability to swap Left Ctrl and Caps. The firmware switch is present as well, just like other Topre keyboards.



Interesting!  Good to know.
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Re: Elitekeyboards
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 03 October 2012, 17:37:58 »
Anyone happen to know where i could get a uniform 104 board?