Recommend a good FPS mouse

[nanobadger]

I went and bought a Death Adder 3.5G Black Edition based on this to replace my G9X.  I can tell a difference in the no acceleration, even at 3500dpi it is more precise.  

However, the G9X is a much better design for me, the feel, button placement, number of buttons, etc. are so much better.  I must not be a full palm grip player as I end up holding the DA at a slight angle.  Also I keep having to lift even with adjusting speed/sens/dpi, is this because I'm getting true non-accelerated and I'm use to having it?


Will try a CM Spawn next.

After doing more research, found that I should turn down the dpi and polling on the DeathAdder to default of 1800dpi/500hz (as I was going max), and that worked out great.  Mouse feels excellent, and I can already tell a difference in going from target to target.  Also, I tilted my mouse pad a bit and moved my bungie to get a good grip, overall, think the DA is best out of what I tried so far.  

Other than Deathadder, G400, and the CM Storm Spawn, all other mice seem to have some glaring flaws.  After trying all three, DA is best.  Only main issue I have now is lack of buttons, but nbd for FPS.

Also ordered a couple of hard mouse pads to try (as they work best with 3.5g), will post result of Artisan and 9HD comparison.

[jellowiggler]

Anyone have experience with the Sidewinder X3 (specifically vs MSIE 3.0 and G400/MX518)

[Anyguy4321]

I have never heard the sidewider mentioned in any enthusiast site.  Like microsoft keyboards, it is probably because they aren't very good for hardcore gaming.

Other than Deathadder, G400, and the CM Storm Spawn, all other mice seem to have some glaring flaws. After trying all three, DA is best. Only main issue I have now is lack of buttons, but nbd for FPS.

Abyssus belongs in the uber-elite category.  It, after all, uses the exact same sensor as the Death Adder.  

Mice that are almost as good would be the Zowie AM.

Also ordered a couple of hard mouse pads to try (as they work best with 3.5g), will post result of Artisan and 9HD comparison.

9HD fixes sensor issues on the avago 9500 (steelseries sensei + G9x).  However, it is a matter of subjective personal preference usually if you prefer a cloth or hard pad.  I am rocking an Artisan Hayate and could never go back.  The difference is sublime.

[nanobadger]

I have never heard the sidewider mentioned in any enthusiast site.  Like microsoft keyboards, it is probably because they aren't very good for hardcore gaming.



Abyssus belongs in the uber-elite category.  It, after all, uses the exact same sensor as the Death Adder.  

Mice that are almost as good would be the Zowie AM.



9HD fixes sensor issues on the avago 9500 (steelseries sensei + G9x).  However, it is a matter of subjective personal preference usually if you prefer a cloth or hard pad.  I am rocking an Artisan Hayate and could never go back.  The difference is sublime.

Hmmm... does the 9HD fix the positive acceleration issue with the G9X, or just tone it down?  I might try it out, if the G9X had a non-flawed sensor, it would be the best mouse I ever used.

I read somewhere the 3.5G BE I have doesn't like cloth pads.

[Anyguy4321]

Hmmm... does the 9HD fix the positive acceleration issue with the G9X, or just tone it down?  I might try it out, if the G9X had a non-flawed sensor, it would be the best mouse I ever used.

I read somewhere the 3.5G BE I have doesn't like cloth pads.

From what I've read, it tones it down to 1-3% from the 5% or so it normally has.  Acceleration is just built into that sensor

[Bilbin]

I have an Abyssus and I use a palm grip.

[kreysee]

The MX518 is good enough for me, even after trying out the Xai!

[Heisenberg]

G9x dropped to $59.99 on Amazon and Newegg (comes with gift on egg). I snagged one to replace my Performance MX.

[darksakul]

I had the Logitech MX518I though it was the best mouse I ever had, until I got a Logitech G500.
I have a Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX for my laptop I sometimes use while traveling

[Creizai]

Sorry to call you out, but that's bollocks... The tiny bit of acceleration would NEVER cause you to miss a mineral patch altogether... It's very slight and barely even measurable... Where you using a cloth pad, glass or plastic?
I used the XAI for 2 years on all kinds of surfaces and besides acclimating to different glide I never had the slightest problem lining up a headshot. There is no way in hell that acceleration would have ANY discernible effect in a game like Starcraft 2... Maybe your sensitivity was just set too high...

Mineral Patches are pretty big targets, and believe it or not RTS aren't as Accurate as you may lead yourself to believe.  
When your talking Counter-strike Headshots from massive distance, that is when your going to notice it.  
I'm running a G9x which has acceleration, I've always hated acceleration on any FPS game.  Lucky for me I don't play them much anymore, and if I do it isn't a big deal to me that I'm missing some of my shots.  RTS are waaaaaaaaaay more forgiving.. you can tell by people with amazing control such as MarineKing and his g9x has acceleration just like mine.  

Most people don't notice it, if you take FPS seriously its a huge deal though.

[mcbrite]

Mineral Patches are pretty big targets, and believe it or not RTS aren't as Accurate as you may lead yourself to believe.  
When your talking Counter-strike Headshots from massive distance, that is when your going to notice it.  
I'm running a G9x which has acceleration, I've always hated acceleration on any FPS game.  Lucky for me I don't play them much anymore, and if I do it isn't a big deal to me that I'm missing some of my shots.  RTS are waaaaaaaaaay more forgiving.. you can tell by people with amazing control such as MarineKing and his g9x has acceleration just like mine.  

Most people don't notice it, if you take FPS seriously its a huge deal though.

Well, my Battlefield 3 k/d is pretty much exactly 2 kills to 1 death and I only have 4 "no life stars", meaning I don't play that much (just over 20 minutes a day) and I'm certainly not that good...

Have you actually tried it for a good few weeks? Or is that just "theory" you're talking about?

[dmbr]

G9x user here. I play games semi-professionally ("invite" level and I supplement my income by streaming, YT, and lessons), so my priorities are about as weighted towards consistant tracking as can be, but I still concede to the bigger picture when it comes to mouse choice.

Built in acceleration really is an overblown factor. Many of the best FPS gamers use it. So long as the acceleration is consistant, your brain will adapt and compensate. It really only becomes an issue when making tiny snap precision movements, and even then it is hardly noticable.

Comfortable grip, glide, and features (buttons, DPI adjustability/range, polling rate, etc.) are much more important considerations.

[NuFon]

You had the list in the start of the thread, there is your answer. If you are serious about FPS gaming then you dont want to go with a Avago 9800 series mouse in general, just because of the accel.

[Battou62]

I use a Xai and 9HD at home and a G400 at work. Both have wonderful tracking and feel very similar to me. The Xai is definitely a higher quality mouse, as it should be as it costs twice as much as the G400. I feel like Steelseries mice are overpriced in general, but I got mine 1/2 price from Best Buy. I love my Xai, but they just cost too dam much.

[NuFon]

The g400 is technically superior to the Xai though, but the shape of the Xai is something I drool all over

[Daniel Beaver]

My CM Storm Spawn came in the mail today, and I really like it! The whole thing just feels very well thought-out... might replace my MSIE3.0 and Mionix Naos.

[Internetlad]

I've used both G500 and Deathadder, I'd suggest the Deathadder simply because

A. G500 seemed too heavy at times, crap would build up on the feet and drag. Deathadder is easier to glide and doesn't seem to quite have the same issue.

B. I've had several logitech products over several years share the same uncorrected failing point, where the cord exits the device (G15 Gen1, G15 Gen2 G5 and G500) it will become frayed and will work intermittenty, and then not at all.

When the G500 failed a year and 2 weeks after purchaes (IE 2 weeks out of warranty) I dumped it and bought a deathadder, which is compararable if not preferable. The only reason I wouldn't suggest is if you don't like light mice, or prefer the custom weights of the G5x series.

Also, i'm not sure if i'd classify Deathadder as palm grip, I claw grip it, personally.

[WatchMaker]

I've used both G500 and Deathadder, I'd suggest the Deathadder simply because

A. G500 seemed too heavy at times, crap would build up on the feet and drag. Deathadder is easier to glide and doesn't seem to quite have the same issue.

B. I've had several logitech products over several years share the same uncorrected failing point, where the cord exits the device (G15 Gen1, G15 Gen2 G5 and G500) it will become frayed and will work intermittenty, and then not at all.

When the G500 failed a year and 2 weeks after purchaes (IE 2 weeks out of warranty) I dumped it and bought a deathadder, which is compararable if not preferable. The only reason I wouldn't suggest is if you don't like light mice, or prefer the custom weights of the G5x series.

Also, i'm not sure if i'd classify Deathadder as palm grip, I claw grip it, personally.

What about as far as software and making macros?  How do the drivers compare? 

[Internetlad]

What about as far as software and making macros?  How do the drivers compare? 

I've never much cared for making macros on my mouse (My G15 had that function and I never used it) but It does have a thumb button that I consistently bind "Talk" to in online games, or another "handsfree" function in single player games (tertiary attack etc.)

The Razer software wants to update ****ing constantly, it's so annoying. I don't need my mouse to have downloadable updates, it's a mouse. If it works, it works, if not, it sucks.

Both are essentially plug-and-play though IIRC. You can get software and drivers from both manufacturer's sites. SO fairly comparable.

[cluny]

 I played BF3 to keep myself occupied until CS GO came out. I'd suggest a Logitech G5/G500 but only if you can appreciate the ergo shape(seems most can't). Otherwise, There's always the Deathadder(be aware the left mouse button will start to wear and become uneven to the right button after 9mo. or so.

I'm using the Steelseries Sensei RAW atm. I know it's not ergo but I gotta say before this one, I didn't like SS mice at all but this one changed my mind. New fav shooter mouse for sure.

[akuJIWA]

I'm using Steelseries Sensei, works like a charm.  )

[hamza_tm]

Never liked the Sensei low front end, just got on my nerves with my fingertip grip. I need a chunky body to hold properly.

Using a Zowie AM, Zowie EC2, and Intellimouse 1.1 alternately atm

[metalliqaz]

G400 for teh w1n!

[akuJIWA]

Never liked the Sensei low front end, just got on my nerves with my fingertip grip. I need a chunky body to hold properly.

Using a Zowie AM, Zowie EC2, and Intellimouse 1.1 alternately atm

Other than my Sensei, my other primary mouse would be the IME 3.0. Will post a pic soon. I would recommend this 2 mouse, very good for gaming. I never liked Razer DA, always hurts my fingers.

[vun]

Never liked the Sensei low front end, just got on my nerves with my fingertip grip. I need a chunky body to hold properly.

Using a Zowie AM, Zowie EC2, and Intellimouse 1.1 alternately atm

Other than my Sensei, my other primary mouse would be the IME 3.0. Will post a pic soon. I would recommend this 2 mouse, very good for gaming. I never liked Razer DA, always hurts my fingers.

Eh? Put a DA next to the IME; they have incredibly similar shapes. Although I, too, find the IME to be more comfortable most of the time.

[akuJIWA]

Never liked the Sensei low front end, just got on my nerves with my fingertip grip. I need a chunky body to hold properly.

Using a Zowie AM, Zowie EC2, and Intellimouse 1.1 alternately atm

Other than my Sensei, my other primary mouse would be the IME 3.0. Will post a pic soon. I would recommend this 2 mouse, very good for gaming. I never liked Razer DA, always hurts my fingers.

Eh? Put a DA next to the IME; they have incredibly similar shapes. Although I, too, find the IME to be more comfortable most of the time.

Not really, when I used DA, my little finger will hurt a lot after games. I used DA for 3 months before changing to IME, and then Sensei. I still have IME for my Laptop. Sometimes finding a mouse can be tricky.. especially for a competitive gamer.  But I've found mine, to be honest.. if they still continue upgrading the IME, it'd be the best mouse.. now it has old engine and unadjustable DPI.. it's losing to Sensei, but it's still one of the best I've ever used and still is.

[exousia7]

Sensei Raw. Loving this mouse