Author Topic: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?  (Read 6091 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Tangtawan

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 87
  • Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)



The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.
My boards : Model F AT (6450200), Industrial M (1394950), Model M SSK (1391472), Model M13 (13H6705), Model M (1390131), Focus FK-2001 (ALPS SKCM Blue), HHKB Pro 2, Realforce 87U 55g, KBP V80 Matias Click, TADA68 (Gateron Reds), Filco Majestouch 2 TKL (67g Ergo Clears), Cherry G80-11800 (Ergo Clears), KBT One 108 (MX White), Ducky One TKL RGB (MX Black), Filco Majestouch Tenkeypad (MX Brown), Leopold FC210TP (MX Red)

Offline E TwentyNine

  • Posts: 884
    • Some of My Keyboards
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 29 October 2016, 07:46:04 »
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.

Yes on all points.

And you may be able to find replacement caps cheaper on ebay (or via someone here who may be selling).
Daily driver: SSK or Tenkeyless IBM AT
1984 Model M Industrial Prototype ⌨ 1992 Black Oval Industrial SSK ⌨ 1982 5251 Beam Spring ⌨ 89 Key "SSK" ⌨ M13 triplets

Offline Tangtawan

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 87
  • Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:22:42 »
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.

Yes on all points.

And you may be able to find replacement caps cheaper on ebay (or via someone here who may be selling).

Thanks for the answer, how about the price? Is it reasonable or too expensive, considering how rare this thing is?
My boards : Model F AT (6450200), Industrial M (1394950), Model M SSK (1391472), Model M13 (13H6705), Model M (1390131), Focus FK-2001 (ALPS SKCM Blue), HHKB Pro 2, Realforce 87U 55g, KBP V80 Matias Click, TADA68 (Gateron Reds), Filco Majestouch 2 TKL (67g Ergo Clears), Cherry G80-11800 (Ergo Clears), KBT One 108 (MX White), Ducky One TKL RGB (MX Black), Filco Majestouch Tenkeypad (MX Brown), Leopold FC210TP (MX Red)

Offline axtran

  • Posts: 456
  • Location: Washington, DC, USA
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:25:51 »
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MX Silent > MX Vintage Black > Everything Else

Offline Tangtawan

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 87
  • Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:34:11 »
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks for the answer, correct me if im wrong.. but doesnt it come with removable PS/2 cable like any other model M(s)?

 Also i have 3 other model M(s) and havent bolt modded any of them.. still works just fine.



My boards : Model F AT (6450200), Industrial M (1394950), Model M SSK (1391472), Model M13 (13H6705), Model M (1390131), Focus FK-2001 (ALPS SKCM Blue), HHKB Pro 2, Realforce 87U 55g, KBP V80 Matias Click, TADA68 (Gateron Reds), Filco Majestouch 2 TKL (67g Ergo Clears), Cherry G80-11800 (Ergo Clears), KBT One 108 (MX White), Ducky One TKL RGB (MX Black), Filco Majestouch Tenkeypad (MX Brown), Leopold FC210TP (MX Red)

Offline E TwentyNine

  • Posts: 884
    • Some of My Keyboards
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:41:23 »
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.

Yes on all points.

And you may be able to find replacement caps cheaper on ebay (or via someone here who may be selling).

Thanks for the answer, how about the price? Is it reasonable or too expensive, considering how rare this thing is?

As I said, yes on all points.  The price is very good, you would have no problem selling it for more later.  $150 without blinking and could go much higher.
Daily driver: SSK or Tenkeyless IBM AT
1984 Model M Industrial Prototype ⌨ 1992 Black Oval Industrial SSK ⌨ 1982 5251 Beam Spring ⌨ 89 Key "SSK" ⌨ M13 triplets

Offline E TwentyNine

  • Posts: 884
    • Some of My Keyboards
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:45:27 »
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.
Daily driver: SSK or Tenkeyless IBM AT
1984 Model M Industrial Prototype ⌨ 1992 Black Oval Industrial SSK ⌨ 1982 5251 Beam Spring ⌨ 89 Key "SSK" ⌨ M13 triplets

Offline Crapbag

  • Posts: 28
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 29 October 2016, 10:13:18 »
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.

Yes on all points.

And you may be able to find replacement caps cheaper on ebay (or via someone here who may be selling).

Thanks for the answer, how about the price? Is it reasonable or too expensive, considering how rare this thing is?

Try here:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0

Offline Puddsy

  • nice
  • * Elated Elder
  • Posts: 12275
  • Location: RSTLN E
  • "Do you shovel to survive, or survive to shovel?"
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 29 October 2016, 10:33:05 »
Price is fine, but make sure the model number matches.
QFR | MJ2 TKL | "Bulgogiboard" (Keycon 104) | ctrl.alt x GON 60% | TGR Alice | Mira SE #29 | Mira SE #34 | Revo One | z | Keycult No. 1 | AIS65 | First CW87 prototype | Mech27v1 | Camp C225 | Duck Orion V1 | LZ CLS sxh | Geon Frog TKL | Hiney TKL One | Geon Glare TKL



"Everything is worse, but in a barely perceptible and indefinable way" -dollartacos, after I came back from a break | "Is Linkshine our Nixon?" -NAV | "Puddsy is the Puddsy of keebs" -ns90

Offline axtran

  • Posts: 456
  • Location: Washington, DC, USA
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 31 October 2016, 06:31:58 »
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.

We're in a forum for mostly bespoke keyboards. The Model M is best when bolt-modded. Even new, the plastic rivets aren't as nice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MX Silent > MX Vintage Black > Everything Else

Offline 1391406

  • Posts: 1191
  • Posts: 24838
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 31 October 2016, 09:41:33 »
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.

We're in a forum for mostly bespoke keyboards. The Model M is best when bolt-modded. Even new, the plastic rivets aren't as nice.

A bolt mod is all well and good but unless there's actually an issue, Model M's don't have to or need to be bolt modded in order to function normally. I mean, you can perform one as a preventative measure, but I currently own several Model M's, never bolt modded any of them and they all work just fine.
« Last Edit: Mon, 31 October 2016, 09:43:38 by 1391406 »
Unicomp Classic | Chicony KB-5181 (Monterey Blues) | IBM Model M (1391401) | IBM XT Model F | IBM AT Model F | Dell AT101W | 122-key IBM Model F
IBM Model M13 | Apple Extended Keyboard | Apple Extended Keyboard II | MTEK K104 | NTC KB-6251/2 | Realforce 87U | Realforce 104U | Type Heaven

Offline chyros

  • a.k.a. Thomas
  • * Esteemed Elder
  • Posts: 3478
  • Location: The Netherlands
  • Hello and welcome.
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 31 October 2016, 10:51:40 »
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.

We're in a forum for mostly bespoke keyboards. The Model M is best when bolt-modded. Even new, the plastic rivets aren't as nice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I disagree. In fact I'd prefer to keep my keyboards original if I could. I did bolt-mod one from 1987 because a rather alarming amount of rivets had snapped on that one, and it was very dirty, but it was most definitely worth saving.
Check my keyboard video reviews:


Offline chuckdee

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 1308
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 31 October 2016, 11:12:51 »
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.

We're in a forum for mostly bespoke keyboards. The Model M is best when bolt-modded. Even new, the plastic rivets aren't as nice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I disagree. In fact I'd prefer to keep my keyboards original if I could. I did bolt-mod one from 1987 because a rather alarming amount of rivets had snapped on that one, and it was very dirty, but it was most definitely worth saving.

Totally agree.  If you can keep it original, and it's in good condition, I don't see a reason to mod it.

Offline fohat.digs

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 6473
  • Location: 35°55'N, 83°53'W
  • weird funny old guy
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 31 October 2016, 12:56:36 »

I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.


The Model M is best when bolt-modded.


I'd prefer to keep my keyboards original if I could.


If you can keep it original, and it's in good condition, I don't see a reason to mod it.


Since I have now done about 2 dozen bolt-mods, the process does not cause me to have a panic attack. In fact, I look at a bolt-mod as more likely than not, since I usually buy cheap and tinker. It also allows me to have the peace of mind knowing that every single part is immaculately clean, the membranes have been inspected and tested, and that there are no "gotchas" lurking in there.

A bolt-modded board  *IS*  better because it is much more secure, it can be "tuned" to suit your taste, and if you spill a sticky corrosive liquid into it then it is much easier to get apart and put back together because all the hard work has been done.

All that said, the process is a tedious and fussy  *PAIN-in-the-ASS*  that is too frustrating and time-consuming to do without valid cause.
Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
- Jimmy Carter 2015

Offline rowdy

  • HHKB Hapster
  • * Erudite Elder
  • Posts: 21175
  • Location: melbourne.vic.au
  • Missed another sale.
Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 05 June 2017, 05:29:33 »
Did OP buy this keyboard?  Probably, if the profile pic is anything to go by.

I'd also argue against bolt modding a keyboard unless it is required.

I have a Model M that might have lost one rivet - it is an absolute joy to type on and I have no intention of touching it apart from the occasional gentle clean.

OTOH I have an M122 that I wanted to ANSI mod, and a bolt mod is part and parcel of that.  Still underway, by the way, other priorities have intervened, but I'm in the middle of the putting-back-together stage.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

Ị̸͚̯̲́ͤ̃͑̇̑ͯ̊̂͟ͅs̞͚̩͉̝̪̲͗͊ͪ̽̚̚ ̭̦͖͕̑́͌ͬͩ͟t̷̻͔̙̑͟h̹̠̼͋ͤ͋i̤̜̣̦̱̫͈͔̞ͭ͑ͥ̌̔s̬͔͎̍̈ͥͫ̐̾ͣ̔̇͘ͅ ̩̘̼͆̐̕e̞̰͓̲̺̎͐̏ͬ̓̅̾͠͝ͅv̶̰͕̱̞̥̍ͣ̄̕e͕͙͖̬̜͓͎̤̊ͭ͐͝ṇ̰͎̱̤̟̭ͫ͌̌͢͠ͅ ̳̥̦ͮ̐ͤ̎̊ͣ͡͡n̤̜̙̺̪̒͜e̶̻̦̿ͮ̂̀c̝̘̝͖̠̖͐ͨͪ̈̐͌ͩ̀e̷̥͇̋ͦs̢̡̤ͤͤͯ͜s͈̠̉̑͘a̱͕̗͖̳̥̺ͬͦͧ͆̌̑͡r̶̟̖̈͘ỷ̮̦̩͙͔ͫ̾ͬ̔ͬͮ̌?̵̘͇͔͙ͥͪ͞ͅ