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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-dt990?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Literally%20Everyone%20-%202013-05-17%2021%3A21%20-%201%2F1%20-%20100%25&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Product%20Promo%20Email%20Update

Was cheaper 2 years ago :P

"Shipment #1: Shipped on July 18, 2010       
Items Ordered    Price
1 of: Beyer Dynamic DT 990 Premium 600 OHM Headphones [Electronics]
Condition: New
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
   $229.95"

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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-dt990?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Literally%20Everyone%20-%202013-05-17%2021%3A21%20-%201%2F1%20-%20100%25&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Product%20Promo%20Email%20Update

Was cheaper 2 years ago :P

"Shipment #1: Shipped on July 18, 2010       
Items Ordered    Price
1 of: Beyer Dynamic DT 990 Premium 600 OHM Headphones [Electronics]
Condition: New
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
   $229.95"

Well, ****, let's get in the way back machine and buy it cheaper...oh wait.

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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-dt990?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Literally%20Everyone%20-%202013-05-17%2021%3A21%20-%201%2F1%20-%20100%25&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Product%20Promo%20Email%20Update

Was cheaper 2 years ago :P

"Shipment #1: Shipped on July 18, 2010       
Items Ordered    Price
1 of: Beyer Dynamic DT 990 Premium 600 OHM Headphones [Electronics]
Condition: New
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
   $229.95"

2 years ago =/= now, sry.
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What accounts for the higher price?

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What accounts for the higher price?

Let's see...

1. Depreciation?

2. Distributor changed the contract?

3. Just because?

I mean, just because something was cheaper 2 years ago doesn't make the deal price today any less of a deal today.

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What accounts for the higher price?

Let's see...

1. Depreciation?

2. Distributor changed the contract?

3. Just because?

I mean, just because something was cheaper 2 years ago doesn't make the deal price today any less of a deal today.

Yeah, it makes it a bad deal.  The markup is obviously a lot higher now.

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What accounts for the higher price?

Let's see...

1. Depreciation?

2. Distributor changed the contract?

3. Just because?

I mean, just because something was cheaper 2 years ago doesn't make the deal price today any less of a deal today.

Yeah, it makes it a bad deal.  The markup is obviously a lot higher now.

Yes, because there was a better deal 2 years ago that is no longer available, that nullifies this being a good deal.

Good job

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What accounts for the higher price?

Let's see...

1. Depreciation?

2. Distributor changed the contract?

3. Just because?

I mean, just because something was cheaper 2 years ago doesn't make the deal price today any less of a deal today.

Yeah, it makes it a bad deal.  The markup is obviously a lot higher now.

Yes, because there was a better deal 2 years ago that is no longer available, that nullifies this being a good deal.

Good job

High five



So the lowest immediately available price no mater the markup is a good deal?  There's one born every minute.

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What accounts for the higher price?

Let's see...

1. Depreciation?

2. Distributor changed the contract?

3. Just because?

I mean, just because something was cheaper 2 years ago doesn't make the deal price today any less of a deal today.

Yeah, it makes it a bad deal.  The markup is obviously a lot higher now.

Yes, because there was a better deal 2 years ago that is no longer available, that nullifies this being a good deal.

Good job

High five



So the lowest immediately available price no mater the markup is a good deal?  There's one born every minute.

Ok, so you'd rather spend the money on a *time machine* than accept that the market, and currency, has changed to the point where a *2 year old* deal is no longer available?

And I'm the fool?

I mean, I get what you're saying if this were something that was recently at a lower price as a kind of "Aw mans, this was $30 cheaper 6 weeks ago" because that would imply it might get back there, but something from two years ago?  Yeah, what's the point of mentioning it?
« Last Edit: Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:42:36 by tjcaustin »

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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:54:14 »
What accounts for the higher price?

Let's see...

1. Depreciation?

2. Distributor changed the contract?

3. Just because?

I mean, just because something was cheaper 2 years ago doesn't make the deal price today any less of a deal today.

Yeah, it makes it a bad deal.  The markup is obviously a lot higher now.

Yes, because there was a better deal 2 years ago that is no longer available, that nullifies this being a good deal.

Good job

High five



So the lowest immediately available price no mater the markup is a good deal?  There's one born every minute.

Ok, so you'd rather spend the money on a *time machine* than accept that the market, and currency, has changed to the point where a *2 year old* deal is no longer available?

And I'm the fool?

I mean, I get what you're saying if this were something that was recently at a lower price as a kind of "Aw mans, this was $30 cheaper 6 weeks ago" because that would imply it might get back there, but something from two years ago?  Yeah, what's the point of mentioning it?

Prices fluctuate all the time.  You say that 6 weeks would be reasonable for an example, but not 2 years. I referenced the lower price 2 years ago since it was the only data point I had.  It is a good indicator of what you're being overcharged if you buy it now.  They may be "only" $30 more on massdrop, but they're now about $77 more on Amazon than they used to be when I bought them.  Keep in mind that they were already selling them at a profit before the $77 increase.  A relevant example of price fluctuation would be a flashlight I just bought on Amazon for $170 one week ago.  It is now $200 and will probably be going back down again, considering that $200 is the MSRP.
Another example is the radio that was being sold new on Amazon for $80. A week later they were selling USED for $135.  I wish I invested in them to sell to people like you.
« Last Edit: Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:56:38 by PointyFox »

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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 25 May 2013, 02:14:46 »
I guess at this point, we're just going to disagree because ad-hominem attacks about me are A+ at getting me to walk away.

How is this a bad deal because you got a better one 2 years ago?

I mean, let's play your game.  I paid less than $70 for the retro kit that you're willing to pay tech keys $110 for.  I sure wish I could have got more to sell to people like you.

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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 25 May 2013, 03:14:26 »
When it comes to cans I've seen prices all over the place... Amazon does have some amazing deals. I bought my HD595s for $170 some 5-6 years ago when almost everywhere else was asking almost $100 more (still cranking away, although the padding has long cracked).
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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 25 May 2013, 03:19:27 »
Depending on the model it is common for headphone pricing to go up either due to limited stock/availability, market pricing in general, and/or popularity.

Speaker systems the same way.


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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:59:11 »
Guys, no need to argue about pricing / markup. There could be lots of factors we don't know going into this. I bought a 32Gb flash drive for $10 at radio shack in November 2012. The price hasn't been that low since. Does that mean nowadays deals are bad? no. I'm almost positive the company was making a loss on those flash drives.

We don't know if Beyerdynamic had to increase their wholesale price to retailers, and we also don't know what that price is. Without more inside information, we can't compute the markup. It's all speculation, and your guess is as good as mine.

I would also argue that the lowest currently available price can be considered a "deal" and this is not a naive way of considering the issue. If I want these headphones, and I don't want to wait around for several years to buy them, then finding the lowest currently available price and purchasing that is my only option. Only if I consider my time to be worthless can I consider it otherwise (or if finding the absolute lowest price is a hobby, etc.)

The amount of time you spend looking (or waiting) for a lower price should be less than your time's worth across that time span, otherwise, you "lose" money.

Point is: even if it's not the lowest price, I think we should consider this to be a good deal (being much lower than the retailers have it listed) and if you are interested in getting one, you may consider this massdrop group buy.

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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 25 May 2013, 12:44:12 »
The DT990s are awesome cans.   
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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 25 May 2013, 12:58:24 »
Yeah, there's certainly been no inflation over the 2 year period...

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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 27 May 2013, 13:04:00 »
It's a great deal if you're looking to get the 600ohm premium new, otherwise I think the dt990/250ohm pro is the better deal. To make a point, the hd600 was selling for $300 new a few years back as well, but now it's at a very strict $400. Is it a bad deal if you can manage to get it for $350 new now, just because it was cheaper a few years ago?

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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 27 May 2013, 19:27:07 »
It's a great deal if you're looking to get the 600ohm premium new, otherwise I think the dt990/250ohm pro is the better deal. To make a point, the hd600 was selling for $300 new a few years back as well, but now it's at a very strict $400. Is it a bad deal if you can manage to get it for $350 new now, just because it was cheaper a few years ago?

Arguing with PointyFox will just lead to a ad hominims or straw mans til a mod comes (see CMOY thread).

Yeah, there is no reason to argue with me because my point is valid.  The only argument made against me was an argumentum ad populum. It always degenerates to ad hominem attacks against me, like in thegunner100's post here, where he attacks the style of my arguments.
I would like you to prove I used "ad hominim"(sic) and "straw mans" if you're going to assert that.  Otherwise you're just flat out lying.
You're also implying that a mod came and punished me, which did not happen.  Shame on you.  Get your facts straight before you go making  fallacious arguments.
« Last Edit: Mon, 27 May 2013, 19:35:32 by PointyFox »

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Re: Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Headphones - $259.00 (Mass Drop group buy)
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 27 May 2013, 19:55:00 »
Not in the mood to argue tonight, so enjoy posting however you want! ^^
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