Ergo Clear vs Topre

[quickcrx702]

After lubing my 65g MX Clears, I've come to the realization that they indeed feel similar to Topre. I don't know what to do with this feel.

Oh goodie. It's been so long since I've used clears that I forgot what they feel like. Made a good choice on my ErgoDox then.

I would have to disagree and state that both clears and ergo clears feel nothing like Topre.  While they are probably my favorite Cherry switches, they do feel much more mechanical.  The 45g Topre is mediocre in my opinion, but the 55g feels like some sort of futuristic alien technology.  I feel like it would be used in a spaceship to type in coordinates for other galaxies.

[keymaster]

After lubing my 65g MX Clears, I've come to the realization that they indeed feel similar to Topre. I don't know what to do with this feel.

Oh goodie. It's been so long since I've used clears that I forgot what they feel like. Made a good choice on my ErgoDox then.

I would have to disagree and state that both clears and ergo clears feel nothing like Topre.  While they are probably my favorite Cherry switches, they do feel much more mechanical.  The 45g Topre is mediocre in my opinion, but the 55g feels like some sort of futuristic alien technology.  I feel like it would be used in a spaceship to type in coordinates for other galaxies.

Have you tried lubed ergo-clears? I didn't when I made this post at the beginning of the thread:

Ergo-clear and Topre are not comparable since they feel nothing alike. Obviously then, it's all down to preference.

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It's amazing how much of a difference lubing makes.

[quickcrx702]

Honestly I have not tried lubing them.  I don't have a sticking problem with my ergo clears, which is the reason people seem to like lubing them, and I really like how they feel without the lube.  Maybe I'll get adventurous and lube them, or at least one or two switches to try out, but why fix something that isn't broken?  Don't get me wrong, I think ergo clears feel great, just completely different from 45g and 55g Topres.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Maybe I'll get adventurous and lube them, or at least one or two switches to try out, but why fix something that isn't broken?  Don't get me wrong, I think ergo clears feel great, just completely different from 45g and 55g Topres.

First of all, you don't lube switches to try to "fix" them. That's not the main purpose. You lube to greatly enhance how they feel. If they're properly lubed, they feel very different. I just feel when you don't lube any MX switches, you miss out on the feel.

And to get a good feel of how they are, lube more than just a few. Typing on one or two to test them out is not the same as the whole keyboard experience. So maybe do like 8 for all your fingers.

[LouisHjelmslev]

After lubing my 65g MX Clears, I've come to the realization that they indeed feel similar to Topre. I don't know what to do with this feel.

"Enjoy Your Feeling"... sorry

[quickcrx702]

Got it.  Maybe I'll do the FN row.  Do I really need to use special lube, or can I use automotive lube, the kind that's a bit thicker than WD40 and comes in a squeeze bottle?  Or to be even more ghetto, what about using something like coconut oil?  It's semi thick, and I wouldn't mind having a keyboard that smells like coconut LOL.

[daerid]

Pretty sure you don't want anything organic.

[typo]

quickcrx, I agree they are different. I just got factory clears to replace 55g topre. I like it much better. on the other hand I prefer the 45g topre switches. blue is probably my favorite cherry switch. this is really a matter of preference one must feel for themselves.

[davkol]

nah. I meant in regard to topre being a rubber dome. sure, it is a rubber dome but there are different levels of performance. even amongst rubber domes. hence, the analogy that they are both cars. I was just baffled that a rubber dome could be so good. it is not the technology, it is the quality. it just so happens that most rubber domes are cheaply made and then one is awesome.

tp4, unless you were insinuating that there is not that big a difference. I feel there surely is.

There's no such thing as performance. The keyboard either does work, or it doesn't (sticky or too stiff mechanism). That being said, I can imagine my BTC 5169 could easily sell for $100 or even more today.

[typo]

I suppose I used the word "performance" wrongly in that regard. I meant the way it feels to type on it.

[HongKongFui]

Pretty sure you don't want anything organic.

Oh yes, organic will be a pain after a couple of weeks...

[daerid]

Not to mention possibly attracting things like insects, or at the very least bacteria.

[unicomp_uc]

I want to take on a project of turning my plate mounted Filco Minila browns into ergo clears. Where can I get the necessary materials?

Hmm, I found a youtube video that walks you through it. I'm sure there's a post on here about how to get the parts. If anyone runs across it; can they reply with the link? I didn't find it in the (albeit quick) search.

[nubbinator]

I want to take on a project of turning my plate mounted Filco Minila browns into ergo clears. Where can I get the necessary materials?

Hmm, I found a youtube video that walks you through it. I'm sure there's a post on here about how to get the parts. If anyone runs across it; can they reply with the link? I didn't find it in the (albeit quick) search.

MechanicalKeyboards.com for the Clears, Originative for the springs, Geekhackers store for the Krytox.  You'll also need a decent soldering iron, desoldering wick or pump, and something to brush the Krytox on with.  Victorinox Multi-Tool oil for the springs is optional and usually is only found for a decent price on eBay.

[unicomp_uc]

I want to take on a project of turning my plate mounted Filco Minila browns into ergo clears. Where can I get the necessary materials?

Hmm, I found a youtube video that walks you through it. I'm sure there's a post on here about how to get the parts. If anyone runs across it; can they reply with the link? I didn't find it in the (albeit quick) search.

MechanicalKeyboards.com for the Clears, Originitave for the springs, Geekhackers store for the Krytox.  You'll also need a decent soldering iron, desoldering wick or pump, and something to brush the Krytox on with.  Victorinox Multi-Tool oil for the springs is optional and usually is only found for a decent price on eBay.

Thanks for the greatly detailed itemization! Much appreciated!