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Offline C5Allroad

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Look what I found at Autozone!
« on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 00:00:26 »
What kind of board is it? It wasn't clicky and I wasn't allowed to touchy... I was staring at the whole time....
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 00:05:17 »
Looks like a G86

edit: first thing that comes up when you google G86: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/pos/lpos_qwerty/index.htm
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 00:32:23 »
Thanks!
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 00:34:59 »
Cherry! :D
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 05:56:47 »
Lol
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 06:56:43 »
What's the definition of G86?

So far, we have, as I understand it:

G80: full travel mechanical (M8, MX)
G81: spring over membrane (MY)
G82: undefined
G83: Rubber Sheet (rubber dome)
G84: short travel mechanical (ML)
G85: scissor switch
G86: undefined
G87: undefined

88, 89 and 90 do not appear to exist.
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 07:06:31 »
They have these in many of the auto-parts stores in my area.  I am always tempted to go to a vacant checkout and pop off a cap, but I never have a keypuller on me...
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 07:17:13 »
Maybe you'd find the key that makes the −1 LED come on? : P

G82, G86 and G87 all appear to be rubber dome or scissor as with G83 and G85 — Cherry may be using the different series to differentiate between markets/product ranges, not between switch technology.

I may just ask Robin at Cherry, he'll know for sure : )
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 08:38:18 »
The auto-zone nearby has a mix of those and G80-8113's. I asked about them and they let me take pictures of the 8113 and pull a keycap. If you like, I can get a picture of the G86's they use for the exact model number.

I always thought G86 was the same as one of their other rubberdomes, but they picked a different number for the POS/SPOS line. I can't say for sure, as all my cherry G86's are MX brown.
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 08:44:26 »
How about the G86-22000? That doesn't appear to be MX to me. Looks like G86 covers various switch types : )
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:29:14 »
G86s are either spill-proof POS rubber domes, POS keyboards with Cherry MX Brown (IvanIvanovich probably knows better), or just rather nice lubed rubber domes. I'm not sure if any of them (the RDs I mean) use PBT keycaps like G83s.
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:31:46 »
G86 rubber dome
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 10:35:40 »
Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Sun, 17 November 2013, 08:44:26
How about the G86-22000? That doesn't appear to be MX to me. Looks like G86 covers various switch types : )

Quote from: davkol on Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:29:14
G86s are either spill-proof POS rubber domes, POS keyboards with Cherry MX Brown (IvanIvanovich probably knows better), or just rather nice lubed rubber domes. I'm not sure if any of them (the RDs I mean) use PBT keycaps like G83s.
Sorry, that was a bit of a joke. I have the Cherry MX "ricercar" SPOS which is listed with two different designations (one is a G80) on the back. From what I am able to gather, it is the only G86 with MX switches. I think I read on GH somewhere that they rapidly put something together to fulfill a contract faster, and the internal construction certainly reflects this.

So while true that all my G86's are MX brown, it's a misleading statement, as it's certainly the rare exception (serial numbers only go up to 300 or so), not the rule.
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 10:53:04 »
IHBT : )
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 10:55:44 »
Yes that's right the MX version of the G86(G80)-62410EUAGSA should essentially be considered a limited edition that was most likely a custom order. No other model of G86 has other than domes to my knowledge. As far as I can tell Cherry has 3 class of domes J82 which is total bottom end bargain junk, G83 which is 'standard' office line quality and G86 which would be high quality/high reliability mostly targeted for POS and some industrial use. White/grey color G86 have PBT similar to rest of Cherry lines but black POM is way more common.
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Re: Look what I found at Autozone!
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 11:09:39 »
That's similar to the impression I was getting. G87 seems to be a very specific set of health industry products that gained their own series number.

Then you have the Strait (for example) with no Gxx number at all, when it should presumably be G85 (scissor).

Would be interesting to see how G86 compares to Topre in feel. Someone mentioned recently at DT that Topre domes can be tuned for feel as they don't have to serve physical actuation purposes. I've had a couple of Dell rubber sheet keyboards apart while still connected, and with the rubber sheet removed, it's like typing on a touchscreen. The amount of force required to flex the top dome sheet by the ca. 0.07 mm gap is negligible, or so it seemed to me. You can't "feel the membrane" as I've seen mentioned before.

(Random tidbit: membrane sheets are the same thickness as a typical sheet of paper.)
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