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there's always "personal issues" or "family problems".  It doesn't excuse anything.  Even if my own mother was in the hospital, I could find two minutes during an entire week to simply send a message saying "hey, I know I have your money but here is what happened and it should be fixed in this many days".

You think the electric company or Verizon or Comcast would care?  No they would not.  They'd disconnect your ass and send that bill to collections.

Tell it man.

Is this the new "extortion" thread?

No, this is apparently how you get their attention when they aren't responding. Minus snoopy, which people are still referring to despite my apology. Also, Nope. Wrong thread, that one made no sense.

This seems excessive and it's sad a mod has deemed it appropriate content.  I thought personal attacks were against ToS.  I have the warnings to prove it.

I'm not attacking anyone who I am not currently having a bad exchange with. If it was just some dispute I had on someone's opinion or character I wouldn't of posted. It's business.

I don't understand what CalmDepths has done or did wrong?? Don't most GB organizers go MIA while key caps are in production?

2 months MIA was a bit excessive imo.

It does seem like a long time. I'd be freaking if they didn't communicate. It's all we got while we're waiting for our hard earned caps/whatever to arrive.
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No, this is apparently how you get their attention when they aren't responding. Minus snoopy, which people are still referring to despite my apology.

This is the problem with public shaming threads--once you post something, people see it and may not see the end result, and they only have selective memory, in general.  You need to be really sure that you want to post something like this--with justification. 
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No, this is apparently how you get their attention when they aren't responding. Minus snoopy, which people are still referring to despite my apology.

This is the problem with public shaming threads--once you post something, people see it and may not see the end result, and they only have selective memory, in general.  You need to be really sure that you want to post something like this--with justification.

I can't see the future. As humans, we make emotional mistakes. But being able to admit those mistakes is one of those many things that seperate us. I really was patient with Snoopy, regardless what happened in the end I'll get my money back so it wouldn't of made a difference to smear snoopy but he doesn't have a heatware so how else would any of known about my negative experience?

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No, this is apparently how you get their attention when they aren't responding. Minus snoopy, which people are still referring to despite my apology.

This is the problem with public shaming threads--once you post something, people see it and may not see the end result, and they only have selective memory, in general.  You need to be really sure that you want to post something like this--with justification.

I can't see the future. As humans, we make emotional mistakes. But being able to admit those mistakes is one of those many things that seperate us. I really was patient with Snoopy, regardless what happened in the end I'll get my money back so it wouldn't of made a difference to smear snoopy but he doesn't have a heatware so how else would any of known about my negative experience?

Honestly, regarding your other person, as I believe snoopy is definitely innocent. (Me and Bunnylake both have one missing package each from sending stuff to each other, It's really just the post offices fault.) So you should just take his name off the front page which is what he cares about. You will get your money back, and you can't blame him because he really did send it.

On the other hand, I agree there is no excuse to go no contact for weeks at a time yet have the time to buy and sell things and communicate with potential traders. I mean really, what excuse is there?
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Removed some pointless name calling, let's stay on topic ok?
this thread still has too much pointless name calling.
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Removed some pointless name calling, let's stay on topic ok?
this thread still has too much pointless name calling.

Obviously I missed some if it  ::)

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Oh I almost forgot Photekq and Spamray.

Photekq is yet to send me his case. Welsh bast!

And Spamray hasn't sent me any damn snow.
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Yeah but Yorkshire... ewww

Move somewhere else and you might do better :thumb:
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Oh I almost forgot Photekq and Spamray.

Photekq is yet to send me his case. Welsh bast!

And Spamray hasn't sent me any damn snow.

Now it is melting!!!

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Yeah but Yorkshire... ewww

Move somewhere else and you might do better :thumb:

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It's not fair to danielucf. As far as I understand, he's a very busy man who has (I suspect) overcommitted himself to all kinds of projects. This is definitely not the first time people have complained that Daniel didn't get back to them, or that they paid something and he became uncontactable, but he is not dishonest and he probably just gets too many PMs everyday in addition to his daily life emails and other messages.


danielucf - initiated a trade of my pink leaf cc mx (my first and only CC until I get my green leaf from John...)for his red alert v1 bro bot. Haven't heard from him in over a week and I sent my cap out 3 weeks ago (he lives in florida mind you, it doesnt take 3 weeks to ship within the state)

Fine, I see this topic will be controversial but I will not step down from what I have said about daniel. If he wants to clear his name and resolve this he needs to message me.

Dear Snoopy,

I'm sorry. I was a jerk, please don't bring it out on the community. I'm just frustrated with what happened with daniel and it sent me over the top. I shouldn't of lashed out at you, you did everything a seller could do.
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It's not fair to danielucf. As far as I understand, he's a very busy man who has (I suspect) overcommitted himself to all kinds of projects. This is definitely not the first time people have complained that Daniel didn't get back to them, or that they paid something and he became uncontactable, but he is not dishonest and he probably just gets too many PMs everyday in addition to his daily life emails and other messages.


danielucf - initiated a trade of my pink leaf cc mx (my first and only CC until I get my green leaf from John...)for his red alert v1 bro bot. Haven't heard from him in over a week and I sent my cap out 3 weeks ago (he lives in florida mind you, it doesnt take 3 weeks to ship within the state)

Fine, I see this topic will be controversial but I will not step down from what I have said about daniel. If he wants to clear his name and resolve this he needs to message me.

Dear Snoopy,

I'm sorry. I was a jerk, please don't bring it out on the community. I'm just frustrated with what happened with daniel and it sent me over the top. I shouldn't of lashed out at you, you did everything a seller could do.

But if people can't be bothered and/or are too busy then they don't need to trade and/or sell things.....

I have two very ill children at home and the last two nights have been up most of the night but I still managed to mod, package and ship a keyboard I traded.

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but spamray, danielucf runs group buys that we all like. And lots of the group buy guys wind up getting so busy they don't respond well to PMs. Based on this logic, most group buys would wind up being disbanded because the group buy organizer got his name stuck on some wall of shame.

just for the record, on various group buys I have found the organizer took a while to get back on various PMs after I'd paid. It never seemed like a scam or anything.

And as for sick kids, I find that leaving them alone tends to work out better. Sick kids either want to sleep, or they get very grouchy and have to be left alone to knock over their building blocks and scream and toss them around. You sitting down next to them won't do your sanity (and usually your ears) any good.
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but spamray, danielucf runs group buys that we all like. And lots of the group buy guys wind up getting so busy they don't respond well to PMs. Based on this logic, most group buys would wind up being disbanded because the group buy organizer got his name stuck on some wall of shame.

just for the record, on various group buys I have found the organizer took a while to get back on various PMs after I'd paid. It never seemed like a scam or anything.

And as for sick kids, I find that leaving them alone tends to work out better. Sick kids either want to sleep, or they get very grouchy and have to be left alone to knock over their building blocks and scream and toss them around. You sitting down next to them won't do your sanity (and usually your ears) any good.

Well lately group buy organizers who go MIA have been shamed...and has daniel ran a group buy recently?? toxic doesn't count its like the never end story of group buys.


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snoopy

I know OP has retracted his claims against you. But just to share my experiences, I can say that international tracking is often very flawed and even highly reputed postal systems (UK Royal Mail; Deutsche Post; Singapore Post) have screwed up. I have been given 'fake' tracking numbers several times, and also given out a 'fake' tracking number twice.

Furthermore when somebody is using a proxy shipper, it often adds to the mess!

To be fair to snoopy we did use paypal which should take care of itself. I don't know what your definition of tracking is but it sitting on preparing for shipment from origin destination for 2 months isn't tracking or any sort of confirmation.

Yes, they messed it up at a certain point, but that's not my fault. I got all the paper stuff here that confirms that I delivered it to the postoffice and I additionally have all the paperstuff from the currently ongoing inquiry. Can't do anything more. I can't even refund you, cause Paypal locked the money. And I will not send additional money.

But yeah I know, as you wrote on paypal, you blame me that the tracking is fake/invalid or whatever... but won't discuss that anymore.
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I have ... given out a 'fake' tracking number twice.

berserkfan added to personal blacklist.  :(
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I have ... given out a 'fake' tracking number twice.

berserkfan added to personal blacklist.  :(
he meant that the post often screws up 'fake' tacking kinda, or you were just joking and I look like doofus
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I have ... given out a 'fake' tracking number twice.

berserkfan added to personal blacklist.  :(
he meant that the post often screws up 'fake' tacking kinda, or you were just joking and I look like doofus

I'm not sure if the way it is written is as intended, but if you read what berserkfan wrote ...

...Mail; Deutsche Post; Singapore Post) have screwed up. I have been given 'fake' tracking numbers several times, and also given out a 'fake' tracking number twice.


... it  sounds like he gave out fake tracking numbers twice.  That may not be the intended message, but it is written in such a way that it could be interpreted that way. 

The intended meaning could be he got useless/fake tracking numbers from the vendor, and passed that information on, but the wording does not specifically state that.

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By "fake" I think he means "inaccurate". If you give out a truly (intentionally) fake tracking number, you're just asking for trouble...
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I was given a fake tracking number by a geekhacker once, I don't know if it was intentional or not but they kept putting off shipping my stuff so it's likely it was on purpose. Also it wasn't anybody in this thread.

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I've been given a 'fake' tracking number by EK, the item arrived even tho the number says its still being processed through USPS facilities ^-^
This sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before.

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I'd just like to add, for future reference, that "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment" does not mean that the item is still with the sender.  It means the item is already in the U.S. or about to be in the U.s. and is being prepared to be forwarded to a U.S. mailing agent.  Items arrive in cargo of planes, ships, whatever, and are then scanned, processed, and forwarded to the destination shipping agency.  Here's a reply from a postal worker:

"It means that the origin Post is preparing a shipment for dispatch. basically manifesting packages heading for the US. Most often, a foreign post will merge all of the packages going to one country and list a manifest of each individual package and their tracking numbers, if applicable.

Once the container is full enough, it is passed to be dispatched. When the container is scanned, the status of all of the packages on the manifest will update.
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For example, right now, I'm waiting for a package from Korea.  Here's the tracking:

December 18, 2013 , 3:16 am   Processed Through Sort Facility ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)
Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
December 17, 2013 , 1:02 am Processed Through Sort Facility SEOUL INTERNATIONAL POST OFFICE, KOREA REPUBLIC OF
December 16, 2013 , 11:12 pm Processed Through Sort Facility KOREA REPUBLIC OF
December 16, 2013 , 6:41 pm Acceptance KOREA REPUBLIC OF

As you see, the package has landed on the U.S. soil and is being passed to USPS by EMS.

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Dutch customs.

Imported keyboad stuff. I have to pay BTW (our version of VAT) after already paying VAT. Then they slap me with an unreasonably high customs administration charge, and finally they sometimes like to add extra special charges depending on the type of product you are importing.

The BTW is over both the price of the product and the cost of shipping BTW. And all of this also goes for products for which there is no domestic or EU alternative.
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Dutch customs.

Imported keyboad stuff. I have to pay BTW (our version of VAT) after already paying VAT. Then they slap me with an unreasonably high customs administration charge, and finally they sometimes like to add extra special charges depending on the type of product you are importing.

The BTW is over both the price of the product and the cost of shipping BTW. And all of this also goes for products for which there is no domestic or EU alternative.

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Has anyone ever sold to the user soymic?

He has 4 posts, and he wants to buy my Sanctuary set.

But I didn't want to send to China for someone I don't know. He ended up sending me the money through paypal as goods, with a different address in California. But its unconfirmed. Does that mean if I send him the package with tracking, he can't do a chargeback or anything? I just want to know if I'll be protected in this situation.

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Yeah but Yorkshire... ewww

Move somewhere else and you might do better :thumb:

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Has anyone ever sold to the user soymic?

He has 4 posts, and he wants to buy my Sanctuary set.

But I didn't want to send to China for someone I don't know. He ended up sending me the money through paypal as goods, with a different address in California. But its unconfirmed. Does that mean if I send him the package with tracking, he can't do a chargeback or anything? I just want to know if I'll be protected in this situation.

he can still do some **** but as long as you are patient with pp you will get your money.
but this looks pretty shady. when I sell to people sub 60 I tell them they pay as gift or no deal

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Has anyone ever sold to the user soymic?

He has 4 posts, and he wants to buy my Sanctuary set.

But I didn't want to send to China for someone I don't know. He ended up sending me the money through paypal as goods, with a different address in California. But its unconfirmed. Does that mean if I send him the package with tracking, he can't do a chargeback or anything? I just want to know if I'll be protected in this situation.

I don't think you would be protected unless you send to a PayPal confirmed address.

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Did they write the US address inside the paypal payment note? IF so I would imagine you could just refer paypal to that and simply say you sent it as instructed by the buyer with the tracking number. I sell to Chinese several times that have something in Industry City California as their address, it's some sort of reshipping service.

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Did they write the US address inside the paypal payment note? IF so I would imagine you could just refer paypal to that and simply say you sent it as instructed by the buyer with the tracking number. I sell to Chinese several times that have something in Industry City California as their address, it's some sort of reshipping service.

Yeah that's exactly where its going. The us address wasn't in the notes but in the actual transaction. You think im safe? Unverified though.

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Did they write the US address inside the paypal payment note? IF so I would imagine you could just refer paypal to that and simply say you sent it as instructed by the buyer with the tracking number. I sell to Chinese several times that have something in Industry City California as their address, it's some sort of reshipping service.

Yeah that's exactly where its going. The us address wasn't in the notes but in the actual transaction. You think im safe? Unverified though.

tell them that you have 900+ posts, they have 4 and no heatware at all, and that you should take gift. otherwise don't sell unless you need the money really badly

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I would get them to send a gift if I were you ^ You have a good rep already, let them establish theirs before making a transaction like that.
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How is gift more secure? I thought they could do charge back for those too. I was under the impression that with goods I'd be more protected? Paypal is confusing.

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Oh, it's the address they have on file with paypal. Yes, I would say you should be totally fine, it's what they have as the address, and with tracking to that address they can't claim non delivery. If they try to claim some other way like claim defect or wrong item, then they would have to return it to you with proof of delivery otherwise paypal will not side with them.

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I'm pretty sure they can't get money back no matter what of they pay through gift. Which is why it says "only use this for sending money to friends or family." I could be very wrong though.
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You couldn't do a claim through paypal to reclaim a gift payment, but if they used a credit card they might be able to pull some **** through the credit card company maybe.

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Thanks for the education everybody. I'm gonna send the package tomorrow.

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And this is why I never would want to be on this thread.
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I wouldn't go with a forwarding service myself for anything expensive.  My LZ-GH was sold by the original seller to someone in China, and they asked for it to be shipped to their forwarding service in California (he didn't know that the keyboard would go to China after California).  The keyboard got damaged in shipping to China from California, and the buyer got all his money back from PayPal, even though it wasn't the seller's fault.
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You couldn't do a claim through paypal to reclaim a gift payment, but if they used a credit card they might be able to pull some **** through the credit card company maybe.

That is why you pay the extra 3.4% surcharge and go Goods payment ONLY.  That way if the seller decides to get nasty you wait 45 days and do the call-back.  Simple really.  If the seller did honestly send the item it should arrive in another week or two because Paypal is still very generous in allowing an extra fortnight to pass by before they refund you.

So if no one can send an item anywhere in the world beyond 59 days in total, then they should not be selling anything here at all.

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Not talking about protection from bad sellers... talking about from bad buyers. Paypal isn't really too good about giving sellers any protection and never the benefit of the doubt even when you are clearly in the right. There is very little stopping bad buyers from scamming sellers. Though, I have never lost a dispute as a seller yet. It is annoying having to wait potentially months for paypal to return the funds to you.

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Has anyone ever sold to the user soymic?

He has 4 posts, and he wants to buy my Sanctuary set.

But I didn't want to send to China for someone I don't know. He ended up sending me the money through paypal as goods, with a different address in California. But its unconfirmed. Does that mean if I send him the package with tracking, he can't do a chargeback or anything? I just want to know if I'll be protected in this situation.

I think you have 2 protections if any claim raised.
First, you receive a payment as gift. Gift is a simple plain gift, we cannot claim back something as gift
Second, you have proof of delivery to a CONUS address. It is the crucial evidence if any claim raised.
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Has anyone ever sold to the user soymic?

He has 4 posts, and he wants to buy my Sanctuary set.

But I didn't want to send to China for someone I don't know. He ended up sending me the money through paypal as goods, with a different address in California. But its unconfirmed. Does that mean if I send him the package with tracking, he can't do a chargeback or anything? I just want to know if I'll be protected in this situation.

I think you have 2 protections if any claim raised.
First, you receive a payment as gift. Gift is a simple plain gift, we cannot claim back something as gift
Second, you have proof of delivery to a CONUS address. It is the crucial evidence if any claim raised.
Well, I think you don't need to worry to much about this case, in my opinion at least.


Paypal won't refund but that doesn't stop the person doing a charge-back on their card.
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Offline phoenix1234

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Paypal won't refund but that doesn't stop the person doing a charge-back on their card.

I never face or do something like this but in term of financial transaction, I think when we received a payment from Paypal, it is the final end-point of a transaction.

If any charge-back happened (even if it is illegal), the credit card company must contact Paypal to do the charge-back. I think Paypal received 3% fee as a middle man to protect both sides of a transation so Paypal must be responsible for any dispute or claim happened.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it is what I understand and it is somehow explained by Paypal here :
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/chargeback-guide
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Offline tormentor

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Re: Wall of Shame
« Reply #147 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 01:06:45 »
Thread getting locked. Please start your own if you want to have a place to discuss other members trustworthyness or other negative experiences. The Wall is closed... For now.