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Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 11:15:56 »
$4.99 Starting Bid with low shipping cost ($11.25 for me)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111273220393

Maybe someone can get a deal, if no bidding wars.
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 20:48:09 »
You forgot to mention it isn't working out of the box...
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 20:56:33 »
You forgot to mention it isn't working out of the box...

Do any XT's work on modern computers without a converter?

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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:01:36 »

You forgot to mention it isn't working out of the box...

Do any XT's work on modern computers without a converter?

Nope, not XT's.
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:13:51 »
This has been on my radar since it was posted on eBay.

But since I just got an AT model F, I'm not really interested in another PC model F. Someone else should get this and XTant it up sometime.

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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 02:45:38 »
"Model F"...

So this thing is supposed to be nkro, if you build it one of these Soarer's boxes?

For like twenty bucks, perhaps I could go in on the risk of it actually being damaged.
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 03:37:08 »
"Model F"...

So this thing is supposed to be nkro, if you build it one of these Soarer's boxes?

For like twenty bucks, perhaps I could go in on the risk of it actually being damaged.

I've never seen a non-working Model F that wasn't beat to hell. This one almost certainly works. It's hardly a risk.

The Teensy that is used for the converter will run you ~$20 as well, so just take that into consideration. For me, that $20 was once of the best purchases I've made. Having a Soarer's is just so convenient when trying to test a keyboard or hooking one up for regular use.

And yes. It has NKRO. You can press every single key and the computer will register them all. Not that it's needed, really... Convenient for very specific situations that I've encountered a few times, but not needed.
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 11:14:47 »
Awesome, thanks- I've been thinking about ducking around with Plover (stenotype for qwerty, leaning on several keys at once to type entire words at a time).

I'd be replacing this thermaltake 'poseidon' I just acquired, not a big fan of the cherry blues I guess, but if this bid falls through I might try adding some of those rubber bumpers...


As for the converter board- everyone's just soldering it directly to the end of the cable?
I'm inclined to splice out something like one of these connector dudes, since it looks like we're working with the standard (large) 5pin din plug- that'd work, right?

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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 11:24:25 »
Awesome, thanks- I've been thinking about ducking around with Plover (stenotype for qwerty, leaning on several keys at once to type entire words at a time).

I'd be replacing this thermaltake 'poseidon' I just acquired, not a big fan of the cherry blues I guess, but if this bid falls through I might try adding some of those rubber bumpers...


As for the converter board- everyone's just soldering it directly to the end of the cable?
I'm inclined to splice out something like one of these connector dudes, since it looks like we're working with the standard (large) 5pin din plug- that'd work, right?

Yes, it works good. I cut off the ps2 part myself and wired the ends to my teensy.

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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 11:28:27 »
ballin- I'm going to be so pissed off when this thing shoots up to $70 in the last few hours

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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 11:34:13 »
IMO, an XT Model F is worth about $60-80, depending on condition
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 11:39:46 »
IMO, an XT Model F is worth about $60-80, depending on condition

That is shocking, just last summer I had trouble selling 2 very clean, complete, tested ones in the $35 range.

I look at things in terms of proportion. It seems to me that an AT F is easily worth twice as much as an XT F. Personally, I think an F-122 is worth twice as much as an AT F, but I can understand that many people would consider the AT version the most desirable.

In any case, you would be nuts to spend $60-80 on an XT when you could get an AT in the $100-120 range!
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 11:45:09 »
IMO, an XT Model F is worth about $60-80, depending on condition

That is shocking, just last summer I had trouble selling 2 very clean, complete, tested ones in the $35 range.

I look at things in terms of proportion. It seems to me that an AT F is easily worth twice as much as an XT F. Personally, I think an F-122 is worth twice as much as an AT F, but I can understand that many people would consider the AT version the most desirable.

In any case, you would be nuts to spend $60-80 on an XT when you could get an AT in the $100-120 range!


Well, I paid $200 plus shipping for my AT Model F, I guess at the peak of their pricing/scarcity. :'(

We shall not discuss my F-122 fiasco. :))
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 11:54:39 »
IMO, an XT Model F is worth about $60-80, depending on condition

That is shocking, just last summer I had trouble selling 2 very clean, complete, tested ones in the $35 range.

I look at things in terms of proportion. It seems to me that an AT F is easily worth twice as much as an XT F. Personally, I think an F-122 is worth twice as much as an AT F, but I can understand that many people would consider the AT version the most desirable.

In any case, you would be nuts to spend $60-80 on an XT when you could get an AT in the $100-120 range!

Agreed.

If someone is looking to try an F, the XT is the worst place to start. The layout is horrible, it requires a converter, and if you spend a little bit more you can get an AT.

I don't think an XT is worth $60.  Then again I don't think an ISSK is worth $2K so what do I know...
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 11:06:23 »
son of a ***** auction sniper

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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 11:08:28 »
$43 shipped, not bad.

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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 11:25:40 »
son of a ***** auction sniper

What?

Anybody who bids instead of snipes is shooting themselves in the foot. Sniping is the only realistic way to play the game.
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 14:56:43 »
son of a ***** auction sniper

What?

Anybody who bids instead of snipes is shooting themselves in the foot. Sniping is the only realistic way to play the game.

apparently, it got past me-
of course mostly I just wish I'd have stuck in for a larger bid, donno who I was trying to lowball at $30

I've become the exact reason sniping wins, and now I'm super bitter.  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :'(

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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 15:25:02 »

I've become the exact reason sniping wins,


Auction sniping is efficient and elegant. It costs pennies and then only if you win. Auction Sniper gives you a few free ones to start.

You are always sure of getting by with the least amount possible, and it is automatic. And you never fuel any bidding wars.

There are 2 good methods. If you are serious about an item, put in a snipe at the maximum amount you would be willing to pay as soon as you see it, then walk away and forget it.

Or, put in a lowball snipe on every item that comes along, and eventually you may win one.

Snipes can be changed or cancelled until the last 5 minutes, and, if there is a Buy-It-Now with no other bidders, your last-minute snipe will kill the Buy-It-Now and you will get it at the starting price.

There is simply no reason not to snipe except for some sort of "purist" or "elitist" attitude that is irrational and counter-productive.
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Re: Cheap? IBM XT Model F
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:48:26 »
son of a ***** auction sniper

What?

Anybody who bids instead of snipes is shooting themselves in the foot. Sniping is the only realistic way to play the game.

apparently, it got past me-
of course mostly I just wish I'd have stuck in for a larger bid, donno who I was trying to lowball at $30

I've become the exact reason sniping wins, and now I'm super bitter.  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :'(

If you don't want to snipe, just bid your max. That's how it has always been. But don't worry, XTs are common enough. Wait one more week, two more and you'll get another listed.
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