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Offline johndavis33

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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (HHKB vs. fc660c)
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:39:45 »
I just bought the happy hacking, because I found it to be more aesthetically pleasing. It just arrived about ten minutes ago, and first impressions are, I love it.

Honestly, I love the weight and tactile feeling of the switches. They feel like more tactile clears, without the bottoming out feeling i didn't like from clears. And the main problems I had with the lighter cherry switches. My main issue with the light cherry switches were that I don't like to bottom out on any cherry switch but clears, and it's very, very hard for me to do that on the lighter cherries. But on topre, bottoming out is fine! it's even more comfortable than it is on clears! Also, the keycaps for the HHKB are AMAZING. I don't know if I like the feeling of them as much as I do the Ducky PBT dyesubs, but they're definately in the same league. They definately have a rougher texture, though I'm not sure if I like that better or not. Also, all the quams about the layout I had before were nothing. I'm really surprised how quickly i adapted to the new backspace and arrow keys.

If you've got similar tastes in cherry switches to me, BUY ONE OF THESE TWO KEYBOARDS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE WEIGHT RATING.
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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (bought one, HHKB)
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:59:55 »
Excellent decision, and glad you like it. To be honest the biggest purchasing decision for a new keyboard for me is the ability to change Control and Caps Lock via dip switch. I use keyboard shortcuts a lot and having a home-row Ctrl key is all the difference in the world when it comes to eliminating hand cramps from typing. Now I don't like typing on standard keyboards that don't have option to change it. As I understand the KUL ES-87 does have that ability I would definitely buy that for my next MX board, but I'm not in a hurry to go deeper into the MX game.
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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (bought one, HHKB)
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 11:05:00 »
Excellent decision, and glad you like it. To be honest the biggest purchasing decision for a new keyboard for me is the ability to change Control and Caps Lock via dip switch. I use keyboard shortcuts a lot and having a home-row Ctrl key is all the difference in the world when it comes to eliminating hand cramps from typing. Now I don't like typing on standard keyboards that don't have option to change it. As I understand the KUL ES-87 does have that ability I would definitely buy that for my next MX board, but I'm not in a hurry to go deeper into the MX game.
Lightly unrelated, but you might want to look into the Ducky Premier/Pro line. They've got it available via a dip switch. I can't speak about the KUL, but the I know that they've got better build quality than a Filco, IMO, and the PBT dyesubs on them are to die for.
HAVE AND WILL KEEP: HHKB - Printed white | Ducky Banana edition - Whites | Model M13 | Unidentified Goodwill keyboard - Simplified black ALPS
TOO BE SOLD: TG3 BL82 - Clears | Wheelwrite 5 - Buckling Springs typewriter
SOLD: Rosewill RK9000 - Blacks | QFR - Blues | Ducky G2 Pro - Greens |
IT WILL BE MINE: Northgate Omnikey - White ALPS

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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (bought one, HHKB)
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 11:06:14 »
Lightly unrelated, but you might want to look into the Ducky Premier/Pro line. They've got it available via a dip switch. I can't speak about the KUL, but the I know that they've got better build quality than a Filco, IMO, and the PBT dyesubs on them are to die for.

Yeah, they look really nice, but I'm not a fan of full size keyboards.
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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (bought one, HHKB)
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 11:26:48 »
Good pick!   Enjoy..  :thumb:

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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (bought one, HHKB)
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 14:03:00 »
Excellent decision, and glad you like it. To be honest the biggest purchasing decision for a new keyboard for me is the ability to change Control and Caps Lock via dip switch. I use keyboard shortcuts a lot and having a home-row Ctrl key is all the difference in the world when it comes to eliminating hand cramps from typing. Now I don't like typing on standard keyboards that don't have option to change it. As I understand the KUL ES-87 does have that ability I would definitely buy that for my next MX board, but I'm not in a hurry to go deeper into the MX game.
Lightly unrelated, but you might want to look into the Ducky Premier/Pro line. They've got it available via a dip switch. I can't speak about the KUL, but the I know that they've got better build quality than a Filco, IMO, and the PBT dyesubs on them are to die for.

Wait.. does the KUL come with PBT? I thought they came with ABS?
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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (bought one, HHKB)
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 14:06:09 »
Excellent decision, and glad you like it. To be honest the biggest purchasing decision for a new keyboard for me is the ability to change Control and Caps Lock via dip switch. I use keyboard shortcuts a lot and having a home-row Ctrl key is all the difference in the world when it comes to eliminating hand cramps from typing. Now I don't like typing on standard keyboards that don't have option to change it. As I understand the KUL ES-87 does have that ability I would definitely buy that for my next MX board, but I'm not in a hurry to go deeper into the MX game.
Lightly unrelated, but you might want to look into the Ducky Premier/Pro line. They've got it available via a dip switch. I can't speak about the KUL, but the I know that they've got better build quality than a Filco, IMO, and the PBT dyesubs on them are to die for.

Wait.. does the KUL come with PBT? I thought they came with ABS?

KUL comes with lasered ABS, the Ducky Premier comes with PBT dyesubs.
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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (bought one, HHKB)
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 22:11:50 »
I just bought the happy hacking, because I found it to be more aesthetically pleasing. It just arrived about ten minutes ago, and first impressions are, I love it.

Honestly, I love the weight and tactile feeling of the switches. They feel like more tactile clears, without the bottoming out feeling i didn't like from clears. And the main problems I had with the lighter cherry switches. My main issue with the light cherry switches were that I don't like to bottom out on any cherry switch but clears, and it's very, very hard for me to do that on the lighter cherries. But on topre, bottoming out is fine! it's even more comfortable than it is on clears! Also, the keycaps for the HHKB are AMAZING. I don't know if I like the feeling of them as much as I do the Ducky PBT dyesubs, but they're definately in the same league. They definately have a rougher texture, though I'm not sure if I like that better or not. Also, all the quams about the layout I had before were nothing. I'm really surprised how quickly i adapted to the new backspace and arrow keys.

If you've got similar tastes in cherry switches to me, BUY ONE OF THESE TWO KEYBOARDS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE WEIGHT RATING.

One of us now ;)
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Re: WHAT TOPRE BOARD DO I BUY (bought one, HHKB)
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 23 July 2014, 22:35:20 »
I just bought the happy hacking, because I found it to be more aesthetically pleasing. It just arrived about ten minutes ago, and first impressions are, I love it.

Honestly, I love the weight and tactile feeling of the switches. They feel like more tactile clears, without the bottoming out feeling i didn't like from clears. And the main problems I had with the lighter cherry switches. My main issue with the light cherry switches were that I don't like to bottom out on any cherry switch but clears, and it's very, very hard for me to do that on the lighter cherries. But on topre, bottoming out is fine! it's even more comfortable than it is on clears! Also, the keycaps for the HHKB are AMAZING. I don't know if I like the feeling of them as much as I do the Ducky PBT dyesubs, but they're definately in the same league. They definately have a rougher texture, though I'm not sure if I like that better or not. Also, all the quams about the layout I had before were nothing. I'm really surprised how quickly i adapted to the new backspace and arrow keys.

If you've got similar tastes in cherry switches to me, BUY ONE OF THESE TWO KEYBOARDS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE WEIGHT RATING.

One of us now ;)

Not exactly, haha! I don't think the HHKB is the end all, be all of keyboards. I love it for days, but I won't be giving up my cherries anytime soon. I'd say topre is on the same level as mx whites or greens, for me.

And, honestly, I've got a lot laundry list of minor complaints/nitpicks that will probably drive me to write a review of the product. I love the keyboard, though, still.

The FN key usage has given my pinky tons of extra use, however. I can feeeeel the lactic acid in it.
HAVE AND WILL KEEP: HHKB - Printed white | Ducky Banana edition - Whites | Model M13 | Unidentified Goodwill keyboard - Simplified black ALPS
TOO BE SOLD: TG3 BL82 - Clears | Wheelwrite 5 - Buckling Springs typewriter
SOLD: Rosewill RK9000 - Blacks | QFR - Blues | Ducky G2 Pro - Greens |
IT WILL BE MINE: Northgate Omnikey - White ALPS