IBM Model F PC AT 84 key

[bazemk1979]

Hey guys I remember some of you spoke of this keyboard while back and saying that they are like a pot of gold when you try to find used one or let alone NIB. I'm curious how much used one in good/great shape and NIB goes on ebay, or more or less whats the range that it goes for. Just copy paste below and type in from minimum to max the price it goes on ebay when one shows up. I'm curious about getting one in future so whats the damage I should expect to be or to prepare my self for what sort of scale price will be on bidding, thanks.

-Used good-great condition: $xxx - $xxx
-NIB: $xxx - $xxx

[didjamatic]

NIB varies $300-500.
Used in box near mint $200-400
Used in "good condition" without box depends, under $100 is a good price IMO and I'd pay up to $150 for a clean one not in box if I needed another.  Of course they seem to be more rare these days and everyone wants them so that could drive the price up.

[bazemk1979]

wow so the damage is there  LOL!!!!  this is kinda scare cause I think someone here mentioned that one NIB went for $800 on ebay??? OUCHY!!! is this true?

[didjamatic]

If it's clean enough I don't see why not, there have been plenty of boards go over $500, all you need are 2 people who really want that specific one.  Truly NIB for a pre 1986 keyboard is pretty dang rare.

[bazemk1979]

If it's clean enough I don't see why not, there have been plenty of boards go over $500, all you need are 2 people who really want that specific one.  Truly NIB for a pre 1986 keyboard is pretty dang rare.

thanks men, I was kind of checking about since I found 3 NIB for $160 each, thought I buy all 3, keep one for collection and sell 2 of them, turns out they just canceled my order someone did typo mistake from the warehouse when they were doing the inventory. I really wanted one, although I have a chance of obtaining the 83 key one for $75 used, but in original box + excelent condition, but not sure if its worth that much as collectible since its not really friendly useable even after doing the teensy, the layout of the keys is somewhat weird.

Whats really weird last night the sold 2 XT's NIB for $250+ each on ebay and I have seen them go for $300 or more when they are NIB....

Any ways at least I settled with something what I believe its really nice, its not NIB, but its somewhat rare its in excelent condition and comes with original packaging. Got it for $65 :-) and will join my other square logo that has the LED overlay and this one does not, and I really badly wanted this one since I dont have it in my collection.... Here are the pics of whats coming my way!!!!!!

[Soarer]

I said it before... with prices having gone so crazy, you'd be nuts to open and use a NIB AT-F!!!

3 for $160 would've made you a handsome profit :-(  (sad face 'cos you missed out; not because I'd disapprove)

Just keep looking for an AT-F if you want one... a grubby but ok one still shouldn't cost too much. Avoid broken feet etc, but pretty much anything else is restorable.

[bazemk1979]

I said it before... with prices having gone so crazy, you'd be nuts to open and use a NIB AT-F!!!

3 for $160 would've made you a handsome profit :-(  (sad face 'cos you missed out; not because I'd disapprove)

Just keep looking for an AT-F if you want one... a grubby but ok one still shouldn't cost too much. Avoid broken feet etc, but pretty much anything else is restorable.

Well it was for $160 each not all 3 for $160. I havent missed out on them, they made typo on the numbers so on the website showed the IBM AT F, they do have 3 NIB in the storage, just not keyboards inside the boxes and boxes are from some other manufacturer.

[Soarer]

Well it was for $160 each not all 3 for $160. I havent missed out on them, they made typo on the numbers so on the website showed the IBM AT F, they do have 3 NIB in the storage, just not keyboards inside the boxes and boxes are from some other manufacturer.

Yes, $160 each is what I meant to say, sorry. Well, not being in boxes would take them out of collector pricing I guess, but still, an unused AT-F would be worth a fair bit more than you'd be paying :-)

[AKIMbO]

The last few Model F AT's I've seen on ebay have sold used for $160+...and they weren't in good condition either.  Bazemk1979 I PM'ed you with a lead on a Model F AT.

-Used good-great condition: $140 - $170
-NIB: A kidney and your soul signed over to Satan. (or $600+)

[bazemk1979]

thanks akimbo, but any type of IBM buckling sping keyboard that gets sold outside USA is usually much more expensive than being sold here + shipping would be around $50+, so I'll be looking into spending $300 for a used one, not much of a bargain if its so rare. But thanks for the heads up bud.

[AKIMbO]

thanks akimbo, but any type of IBM buckling sping keyboard that gets sold outside USA is usually much more expensive than being sold here + shipping would be around $50+, so I'll be looking into spending $300 for a used one, not much of a bargain if its so rare. But thanks for the heads up bud.

No  problem.  Keep up the search.  My F AT has become my daily driver.  It's surpassed all of my other keyboards by far.

[486]

Odd thing in Australia. Although M's sell for more than the USA, F's sell for less than the US counterparts. Last time I saw a F AT sell, I think it was from trievalot, it sold for about $99. And it was complete and it was in good condition. Terminal F's sell for loads though. WEird. I know a place where I can get a as new F AT without box for $40 dollars.
Sorry can't tell you where it is. A1 used computers was a good source for F  AT's and they were only $10 but trievalot bought all of those about 2 years ago. I might ask them if they have anymore F AT but arn't listing them. I would suggest getting an XT and making a Teensy converter. The only difference is the lock lights and they can be wired up using the teensy. And the XT has better springs than the AT. More pingier and springier. Here's one for only .99 cents. Summing things up, NIB is ridiculous for buyers. Get used, it's the only sensible thing to do.

[mougrim]

My power is enought to bring this thread back from death, mwahahaha.

Oh, and I wanted to ask - the only way to know date of production of AT Model F is to disassemble it and look for stickers, right?

[1391406]

My power is enought to bring this thread back from death, mwahahaha.

Oh, and I wanted to ask - the only way to know date of production of AT Model F is to disassemble it and look for stickers, right?

Not even then. I've seen the labels on a disassembled AT F and there was nothing to indicate a date. I've been curious to know how to date one, myself.

[mougrim]

My power is enought to bring this thread back from death, mwahahaha.

Oh, and I wanted to ask - the only way to know date of production of AT Model F is to disassemble it and look for stickers, right?

Not even then. I've seen the labels on a disassembled AT F and there was nothing to indicate a date. I've been curious to know how to date one, myself.

Oh well... then it'll retain that air of mystery But it can't be much older than me anyway - I was born in 1985

[fohat.digs]

They were probably only in production for a short time, anyway.

I had an AT (80286 computer, that is) and my recollection is that the time frame from 8086 to the far more popular 80386 opened and closed quickly.

[mougrim]

They were probably only in production for a short time, anyway.

I had an AT (80286 computer, that is) and my recollection is that the time frame from 8086 to the far more popular 80386 opened and closed quickly.

I heard they were in production for two years - from 1984 to 1985.