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Offline gcb

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Re: RECO: ~70% keyboard for VIM
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:13:44 »
I don't mind the insert key being on a Fn layer

Not a vim issue. more a ssh term one. the big issue for me with INS is that i use it a lot for pasting with SHIFT+INS. since that works on all platforms i may be using (even the brain dead OSX) and even if there are several layers of SSH terminals and shells in between.

so pressing LAYER+SHIFT+INS is now too much trouble. also on a standard 104 key SHIFT+INS can be easily typed with one hand if i'm using the mouse to move several pieces of text.

btw. got the CM blue for work and a ergo dox brown+black+greys+etc... for use at home.

i think after all the good insight in this thread i realized that i should focus on the letters and symbols. and all modifiers and combinations have to ultimately be taken care by remap and what not.

i already ordered all shorts of programable ICs and FPGAs that i think can be used for the job... and now i will focus on a USB-USB HID device. ...and maybe in some 20yr it will be ready.

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Re: RECO: ~70% keyboard for VIM
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 15:16:55 »
Boy I get a l;ot of grief for using emacs,  but I have to say at least it doesn't require a custom keyboard.

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Re: RECO: ~70% keyboard for VIM
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 15:22:41 »
It's too bad this is not available for you:

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Re: RECO: ~70% keyboard for VIM
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 21 June 2014, 04:54:48 »
Boy I get a l;ot of grief for using emacs,  but I have to say at least it doesn't require a custom keyboard.

I don't think you've understood the point of this thread. Some of the things discussed here relates to using small keyboards with a limited amount of keys with Vim, but it could just as well be for using Emacs or Linux, since the tilda/backtick key is quite useful for Linux users.

Mapping caps lock to ctrl is quite common for Emacs users.

Perhaps you might find something that could make your Emacs experience even better.

Offline gcb

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Re: RECO: ~70% keyboard for VIM
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:17:09 »
I think i've found my main grip with most keyboards!

After years of using microsoft natural, i LOVE the spacebar ending under the N key!

the right modifiers for me on a regular keyboard, with spacebar ending on the , key are all but useless for my style.

I think the only one that has the short space bar like that with mechanicals is the Vortex KBT Pure Pro. so if anyone wants my CM+storm ktl blue stealth plus money for a Vortex KBT Pure Pro, i'm in.

meanwhile i will continue to wait for my ergodox and think how to add a bag of mx brows i have around on a ms natural shell.



Boy I get a l;ot of grief for using emacs,  but I have to say at least it doesn't require a custom keyboard.

lol. hjkl_over_wasd was too polite for an editor flame war post so i have to add:
you probably never heard of the spacecadet... the keyboard that is the holy grail for emac users. i.e. masochists :)
spacecadet has like a dozen modifier keys. for each finger. And it was the board emacs  was written on/for


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Re: RECO: ~70% keyboard for VIM
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:27:47 »
I think i've found my main grip with most keyboards!

After years of using microsoft natural, i LOVE the spacebar ending under the N key!

the right modifiers for me on a regular keyboard, with spacebar ending on the , key are all but useless for my style.

I think the only one that has the short space bar like that with mechanicals is the Vortex KBT Pure Pro. so if anyone wants my CM+storm ktl blue stealth plus money for a Vortex KBT Pure Pro, i'm in.

meanwhile i will continue to wait for my ergodox and think how to add a bag of mx brows i have around on a ms natural shell.

Pretty sure someone's done this, but it was not an easy mod to do. It required chopping up the board and PCB, hand-wiring a matrix, among other things.
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Offline gcb

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Re: RECO: ~70% keyboard for VIM
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 11:25:42 »
I think i've found my main grip with most keyboards!

After years of using microsoft natural, i LOVE the spacebar ending under the N key!

the right modifiers for me on a regular keyboard, with spacebar ending on the , key are all but useless for my style.

I think the only one that has the short space bar like that with mechanicals is the Vortex KBT Pure Pro. so if anyone wants my CM+storm ktl blue stealth plus money for a Vortex KBT Pure Pro, i'm in.

meanwhile i will continue to wait for my ergodox and think how to add a bag of mx brows i have around on a ms natural shell.

Pretty sure someone's done this, but it was not an easy mod to do. It required chopping up the board and PCB, hand-wiring a matrix, among other things.

Never thought it would be :)

I already hacked one MS natural in the past to remove the numpad. just "folded" the soft pcb under the other and sawed away the case :) it was awful.

anyway, now i'm thinking about gluing or heat soldering the switch bottoms to the plastic case, and then solder a rat nest matrix...

well, i know it will be such a pain that i ordered the ergo dox in a desperate attempt of not having to do it :)

can't wait to get my mass drop ergo dox made of 24 carat gold... well, i assume it is made of gold, because of the price and all.  btw, of anyone wants an ergo dox, i feel like a sucker now for not getting a printed PCB for some $10, a used keyboard for another $15 and a teensy. paying $200 and waiting more than a month is idiotic and i fully regret it. Also cases are overrated.