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Offline chimera15

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« on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 02:36:12 »
« Last Edit: Sat, 13 June 2009, 02:50:53 by chimera15 »
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Alps boards:
white real complicated: 1x modified siiig minitouch kb1903,  hhkb light2 english steampunk hack, wireless siig minitouch hack
white with rubber damper(cream)+clicky springs: 2x modified siig minitouch kb1903 1x modified siig minitouch kb1948
white fake simplified:   1x white smk-85, 1x Steampunk compact board hack
white real simplified: 1x unitek k-258
low profile: 1x mint m1242 in box
black: ultra mini wrist keyboard hack
blue: Japanese hhk2 lite hack, 1x siig minitouch pcb/doubleshot dc-2014 caps. kb1903, 1x modified kb1948 Siig minitouch
rainbow test boards:  mck-84sx

Offline IBI

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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 05:17:18 »
DSI had a windows version on their stand at Computex this month.
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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 11:43:59 »
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DSI had a windows version on their stand at Computex this month.

Sweet

I wonder how difficult it would be to saw the sides off that board. lol
« Last Edit: Sat, 13 June 2009, 11:46:02 by chimera15 »
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Alps boards:
white real complicated: 1x modified siiig minitouch kb1903,  hhkb light2 english steampunk hack, wireless siig minitouch hack
white with rubber damper(cream)+clicky springs: 2x modified siig minitouch kb1903 1x modified siig minitouch kb1948
white fake simplified:   1x white smk-85, 1x Steampunk compact board hack
white real simplified: 1x unitek k-258
low profile: 1x mint m1242 in box
black: ultra mini wrist keyboard hack
blue: Japanese hhk2 lite hack, 1x siig minitouch pcb/doubleshot dc-2014 caps. kb1903, 1x modified kb1948 Siig minitouch
rainbow test boards:  mck-84sx

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 11:51:25 »
ya when I emailed them last time they said windows versions were coming out soon.

love the modularity and it does look sweet.  too bad I dont like cherries much.
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Offline watduzhkstand4

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 11:52:19 »
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Sweet

I wonder how difficult it would be to saw the sides off that board. lol


lol the sides are only taking up like what, an in ch on each side? =P
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Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
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Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 12:51:26 »
Awe, that's sad..hmm.   Still, an almost compact black clicky keyboard looks pretty sweet.


As far as the 2 inches on the side, still too much for me.  My siig's barely fit on my little patch of space I have on my desk as it is. lol
« Last Edit: Sat, 13 June 2009, 12:54:25 by chimera15 »
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Alps boards:
white real complicated: 1x modified siiig minitouch kb1903,  hhkb light2 english steampunk hack, wireless siig minitouch hack
white with rubber damper(cream)+clicky springs: 2x modified siig minitouch kb1903 1x modified siig minitouch kb1948
white fake simplified:   1x white smk-85, 1x Steampunk compact board hack
white real simplified: 1x unitek k-258
low profile: 1x mint m1242 in box
black: ultra mini wrist keyboard hack
blue: Japanese hhk2 lite hack, 1x siig minitouch pcb/doubleshot dc-2014 caps. kb1903, 1x modified kb1948 Siig minitouch
rainbow test boards:  mck-84sx

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 13:27:45 »
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My siig's barely fit on my little patch of space I have on my desk as it is. lol



i'm running out of space on my desk too, my keyboard is getting hemmed in by my collection of book holders...
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Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:01:42 »
Am I missing something here? $160 for space-saver Cherry switches? Also why the extended power adapter?
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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:25:11 »
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Am I missing something here? $160 for space-saver Cherry switches? Also why the extended power adapter?


$160 for modular design (they sell modules to attach to either side - numpad, trackball, gamepad, touchpad, i think even an arrow cluster, is what they've planned (or has been mentioned). Of these some are available now and some are in the works. At $160 its comparable with filco cherry tenkeyless boards (which lack the modularity option).
The power adapter is to power the usb hub which is built in (I dont think filco tenkeyless has that, either, right?). Also this usb hub is 'true 2.0' and has that optional power adapter. Which may be important for those (gamers etc) who like the usb hub built into the keyboard.
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Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:27:32 »
ahhh gotcha, that's what the Modular means, thanks for the clarification
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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:35:08 »
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ahhh gotcha, that's what the Modular means, thanks for the clarification


np.  

I just wish unicomp could take a page from this kind of creativity. :) (pipe dream, I know).

So long as I'm dreaming, imagine a unicomp BS board like this but more --made like kinesis freestyle (split halves, attached by cable) AND WITH the DSI's modularity (modules attach to either keyboard-half). (Actually anyone could attempt that, not just unicomp)

(so who wants to photoshop a mock up? :D )

Yea, I also like to envision peace on earth. ;)
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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 14 June 2009, 01:06:07 »
Yeah, I have one. Took 3 or so months to get a working model, I ordered one in white, now I have one in black. I gave it to my wife, and then I let her have the keyboard (haha). Anyway, she likes it because it works and could give two sh!ts about modular design. 3 USB ports is nice though.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #12 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 08:31:33 »
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lol the sides are only taking up like what, an in ch on each side? =P

It's like that to handle the elctronics and support system for the optional add-ons (numpad, trackpad, etc.)
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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 08:59:16 »
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It's like that to handle the elctronics and support system for the optional add-ons (numpad, trackpad, etc.)


Yeah I don't need any of that junk, can I chop it off? lol
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Alps boards:
white real complicated: 1x modified siiig minitouch kb1903,  hhkb light2 english steampunk hack, wireless siig minitouch hack
white with rubber damper(cream)+clicky springs: 2x modified siig minitouch kb1903 1x modified siig minitouch kb1948
white fake simplified:   1x white smk-85, 1x Steampunk compact board hack
white real simplified: 1x unitek k-258
low profile: 1x mint m1242 in box
black: ultra mini wrist keyboard hack
blue: Japanese hhk2 lite hack, 1x siig minitouch pcb/doubleshot dc-2014 caps. kb1903, 1x modified kb1948 Siig minitouch
rainbow test boards:  mck-84sx

Offline watduzhkstand4

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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 09:01:46 »
I want to know what the power is for.
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Cherry Blue *Filco Tenkeyless w/ blank keys* w/ red ESC key thanks to Megarat
Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline wheel83

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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 09:09:24 »
probably for full usb 2.0 powered hub. thats my guess anyway.
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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 09:13:54 »
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I want to know what the power is for.

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It's like that to handle the elctronics and support system for the optional add-ons (numpad, trackpad, etc.)
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Offline watduzhkstand4

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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 09:30:01 »
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I never knew they need power for a USB hub...

The USB hub I got doesn't need power to operate and it's from dealextreme
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Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #18 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 09:38:57 »
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I never knew they need power for a USB hub...
 
The USB hub I got doesn't need power to operate and it's from dealextreme

Good USB hubs have an external power source to supplement the power from the PC.  Otherwise, you could have many devices running on the meager power from the PC.  Bad things happen in that situation.  If your just plugging in a thumb drive or something, that's OK, but when you start adding a mouse, external HD, keyboard, etc., it starts to tax the power that comes from the USB port.
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Offline watduzhkstand4

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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 09:40:06 »
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Good USB hubs have an external power source to supplement the power from the PC.  Otherwise, you could have many devices running on the meager power from the PC.  Bad things happen in that situation.  If your just plugging in a thumb drive or something, that's OK, but when you start adding a mouse, external HD, keyboard, etc., it starts to tax the power that comes from the USB port.


gotcha. I guess I need to get a new one before I break something. thanks!
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KEYBOARDS
Cherry Blue *Filco Tenkeyless w/ blank keys* w/ red ESC key thanks to Megarat
Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline IBI

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« Reply #20 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 11:27:28 »
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Good USB hubs have an external power source to supplement the power from the PC.  Otherwise, you could have many devices running on the meager power from the PC.  Bad things happen in that situation.  If your just plugging in a thumb drive or something, that's OK, but when you start adding a mouse, external HD, keyboard, etc., it starts to tax the power that comes from the USB port.


I wouldn't say it's a case of good and bad.

USB doesn't provide any facility for providing extra power for a hub down a USB cable, so the devices on an unpowered hub can draw no more power than that which can be provided by a single USB port. This isn't a problem if you're only using low powered devices like mice and keyboards. A powered hub uses an extra power cable to provide full power to each port.

Unpowered hubs have the advantages if having less cables, not taking up a mains socket and being lighter as they won't have a heavy plug or transformer so they're ideal for use on the move. If your USB hub mostly stays in the same place then you might like to get a powered one instead for the extra flexibility.
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Offline talis

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 15 June 2009, 13:39:39 »
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gotcha. I guess I need to get a new one before I break something. thanks!

It's not that you will break anything rather :

Any USB port must be able to supply 100mA of current to any device connected to it (at powerup).  Any device can then attempt to negotiate more power, up to a maximum of 500mA.

A non powered USB hub can only draw 500mA from the port it is connected to, and therefore can only supply a maximum of 500mA total to all devices attached to it.  If you have 4 devices trying to ask for more power, they will not be able to negotiate for more, the hub also needs to reserve at least 100mA for each port even if nothing is connected to them.  Drawing more power then the 500mA total won't damage anything (since every device needs to be able to operate on 100mA, then ask for more power), you'll just get a popup saying "This port cannot provide power to all devices attached to it".

With an external power supply, the hub can provide the full 500mA to each of the ports (as it can draw the extra power needed from the wall socket, rather then needing to derive all of its power from the single port its connected to).

If you only attach lower power devices to the hub (keyboards, mice etc) you'll likely never hit the 500mA max.  If you use a lot of higher power devices (external USB powered hard drives, some flash drives etc) you'll hit that max pretty quickly.
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