Ducky Shine 3-Two different blue LED's (blue and violet?)

[falkentyne]

Not to drag an old topic completely from the grave, although I always wondered what the deal was with some shine 3's having a HOT PINK (which turned out to be called "magneta") LED, while others had  BLUE led and while others had a DARK VIOLET (Blue with purple shade) LED.

Apparently not all blue led shines were called blue, and the original purples were either mislabeled pinks (magneta), the original blues were blue/violet, or the original purples were truly dark purple/blue.

After seeing that the shine 4's I just got, its blue was true blue (like the Corsair non RGB K70 blue (aka the dying LED board)) I looked up some pictures and found this:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1OwLc-JLV10/maxresdefault.jpg
High res picture of the original shine 3 "purple" as the first batch was called on mechanicalkeyboards.

As you can see that is NOT Blue at all.  It's probably the PRETTIEST violet blue you will ever see in a keyboard.  Looks IDENTICAL in color both of my shine 3's.
Here's another image:
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_498_Shine3blue_3.jpg

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Now compare that with this:


http://i.imgur.com/QFxR5Qw.jpg
(source: http://imgur.com/gallery/Ozh1j )

This is a shine 3 also.  Blue LED.  Except the blue LED is true blue this time.

So, when did ducky have two different shades of blue?  Why was this not clearly differentiated?  It's this violet/purple blue and this real blue, which probably led to the eventual magnetas being sold as purple also.

Anyone know what really happened here?

These 'violet' shine 3's to this day have the absolute prettiest blue shade you will ever get without using a RGB.  Shine 4 with level 7 blue and level 2 red looks very close but the neon "glow in the dark" type effect these violet shine 3s have is not quite there....

Why no separation of these two different blues? (True blue and violet blue?)

[rowdy]

Be aware of differences in environment that might affecting the images.  Also light source, type, colour and quality.  As well as camera type and quality.

All of these will affect how the end photo turns out.

Ducky definitely has at least two shades of blue - the deeper blue used on Shine, and a lighter blue used on Ducky Zero Shine (not, technically, the "Ducky Zero Shine", but that is what many people call it).

[C5Allroad]

That picture from MK looks like it was on the lowest brightness.

Different camera, lighting, and such lol.

[falkentyne]

That picture from MK looks like it was on the lowest brightness.

Different camera, lighting, and such lol.

Yea.
I posted that because both of my shine 3's look identical to that one.
At the lowest brightness, it looks like the one from MK, that I linked.
At the brightest setting, it looks like the one that girl is holding.

It definitely is NOT the blue shade of the other picture.

Some shine 3's have the exact blue shade of the Corsair K70 blue LED.  That's what I found out.
And no it's absolutely **NOT** The camera angle!
Otherwise my shine 3 (at full and minimum brightness) would NOT look EXACTLY like the one the girl is holding (dark blue/violet) at full brightness and like the MK one (at minimum)

The other shine 3 (with the person's name written down) has the exact same blue LED color as the Corsair K70 blue (I had the K70 before the LED's died).

[tbc]

what are you doing....?

you can't compare colors like this on the internet.

1.  a shot taken in the dark will have incorrect colors because of high iso

2.  you usually don't have white balance calibration settings

3. leds are hard as hell to take pics of in general.  camera sensors just don't work 100% when aimed at artificial lighting.

4.  your monitors probably aren't calibrated.

[falkentyne]

Actually yes you CAN Compare colors on the internet.
There's a difference between blue and purple.

FYI I also have the Logitech G910+.
When I set this to blue 255, red 0, green 0, the blue is BLUE.  Just as blue as the Corsair.  Navy blue.
The Ducky shine 3 "purple LED" (at least the original batch!) is NOT BLUE.  It's violet.
There's absolutely NO camera trickey or hocus pocus that can change this.

Do I have to take a video for you and show you? (Even then I can't--I don't have a suitable camera for this task).

I removed the LED caps on both the Ducky shine 3, ducky shine 4 and the Logitech G910.  I have the caps removed RIGHT NOW.
The shine 4 and the g910+ have the same blue (not EXACTLY 100% but close enough to say its the same) as the corsair K70 blue LED.

the shine 3 has a DARKER more purple blue that is more VIOLET than blue.

You're basically calling me a complete liar, and I resent that.
I stand by my facts.

MY DUCKY SHINE 3 has the EXACT SAME VIOLET TONE, COLOR for COLOR, as THIS picture.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1OwLc-JLV10/maxresdefault.jpg
Camera angle (yes there is a tilted camera angle here) is IRRELEVENT if this shine 3 looks IDENTICAL to the one I have plugged in, right in my face.

The other shine 3's that have been reported to be blue (not the ones I have) are THIS color:
http://i.imgur.com/QFxR5Qw.jpg

So what are you going to accuse me of now?
that my EYES ARE NOT PROPERLY CALIBRATED?

*PICARD FACEPALM*.

It's already been PROVEN that Ducky used a different shade of blue on the shine zero (or whatever that one was called).
So it looks like they switched blue LED's sometime during the run.  I was just trying to find out when.
What my GUESS Was (I really should have been more active back then when I ordered the shine3 as soon as it was released) was that these violet shine 3s were originally called purple, due to two different blue LED's used.  Then the whole mixup with people wanting these "super beautiful" blues and ordering purple and getting Magenta instead.

I'm going to say this one more time for the trolls who can't accept facts:

if a picture matches something in front of your eyes, it's NOT GAMMA.  Period.

Look at this picture again.
it's a high res image.  NO strange bizarre camera angles.  HEAD ON.
This is true blue here.  This matches how the G910+ and K70 look.

I don't have a 'true blue' shine 3.
My shine 4 looks like this picture:
http://i.imgur.com/QFxR5Qw.jpg
Just less bright.

The violet shine 3's, have the MOST beautiful violet blue LED I have EVER Seen in any keyboard or backlight.
And I simply can't reproduce this shade perfectly on a RGB keyboard.  Shine 4 has regular blue color.

I can come VERY close on the G910+ by having blue=255, red=20, but it looks a bit artificial.
I can come VERY close on the Ducky Shine 4 by having blue=max (level 7) with red level 2.
But I can't get exactly close to this violet LED On the shine 3.

I don't have a corsair RGB keyboard to test.

[taylordcraig]

I'm confused as to what the argument is. The Shine 3 was considered PURPLE not BLUE so of course it wouldn't be blue, right?
The blue shines are newer and obviously blue?
MAYBE IM LOST.

[falkentyne]

The original shine 3's that were advertised as blue, at least the original batch, came with a dark violet color, which is probably the most beautiful blue shade ever conceived.
Everyone who saw those thought they were purple, not blue.

Then when purple ones appeared, they were actually pink (magenta).
It looks like later shine 3's actually had navy blue LED's (matching those with other keyboards like the K70 corsair blue)

The pictures I Found verified that there was another blue (True navy) but I was trying to find out when that blue LED came out.
The shine 4's blue are the same color as those.