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Offline wyatt8740

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Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 12:50:44 »
Well, don't ask how, but I managed to mess up the 'X' key on my AT-101W. It's still usable, but it's got a channel going down into it and generally looks like plastic that's been exposed to a 600° Fahrenheit (332° Celsius / 605° Kelvin)... almost like i accidentally burned it with a soldering iron.

What can/should I do? Is there somewhere I can get a replacement matching keycap (besides another AT101W, which I don't have)?
« Last Edit: Tue, 30 December 2014, 12:58:36 by wyatt8740 »
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 12:52:58 »
Pics?

Sounds like your only option is to harvest a cap from another board, or harvest an entire keyset from a donor board.
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 12:56:24 »
Pics?
getting a pic now, actually.
My camera was giving me grief.
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 12:58:53 »
updated, now includes a pic.

just noticed how nice this camera is... more detail than I see with the naked eye. Wish my old one hadn't been stolen though.

I saw your username, btw.
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« Last Edit: Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:16:13 by wyatt8740 »
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:02:39 »
I'll send you a replacement X key from my AT101 in exchange for your slightly disfigured one.

I only use mine on my server, which hasn't been in use in about 9 months.

I was expecting it to have a hole burnt clean through it lol...
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 13:04:52 »
haha, no, not that bad! I was paying a /little/ attention to what I was doing  :D

Thanks, though.
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:23:34 »
alright, the keycap is shipped :)
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 16:21:13 »
I'll send you a replacement X key from my AT101 in exchange for your slightly disfigured one.

I only use mine on my server, which hasn't been in use in about 9 months.

I was expecting it to have a hole burnt clean through it lol...

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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 16:56:34 »
That is cool. This forum is by far the most positive I've been on in years (mostly car forums). In a large number of PM's, trades, sales, and buys, I've only had one instance of douchery and it was pretty minor.

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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 17:00:44 »
Nice to see such examples of goodwill. Looks like the spirit of the season is alive and well on GH!

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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 17:07:55 »
Nice to see such examples of goodwill. Looks like the spirit of the season is alive and well on GH!

This is generally how GH operates.

Every now and again things go downhill for a few days, but overall, especially with some of the very generous and helpful individuals, things get right back on track :)
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 17:19:25 »
Don't be such a ****.

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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 19:16:41 »
i'd rather have all the battle scars come from previous owners so I dont feel the responsibility for them.
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 19:51:52 »
i'd rather have all the battle scars come from previous owners so I dont feel the responsibility for them.

Now if someone asks me what happened to the X key on my AT101W, I can say it was from the previous owner. :))
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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 30 December 2014, 23:11:45 »
Nice to see such examples of goodwill. Looks like the spirit of the season is alive and well on GH!

This is generally how GH operates.

Every now and again things go downhill for a few days, but overall, especially with some of the very generous and helpful individuals, things get right back on track :)

AMEN to that!  I'm still wondering what ever happened to that terminal board you were fixing too?  Did you ever get it going again?

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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 31 December 2014, 03:23:33 »
Nice to see such examples of goodwill. Looks like the spirit of the season is alive and well on GH!

This is generally how GH operates.

Every now and again things go downhill for a few days, but overall, especially with some of the very generous and helpful individuals, things get right back on track :)

AMEN to that!  I'm still wondering what ever happened to that terminal board you were fixing too?  Did you ever get it going again?

Me??
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 31 December 2014, 11:50:26 »
Me??

I was actually talking to Wyatt.  I was wondering if he ever got that terminal keyboard going.  Sorry about that Rowdy.  I guess the quote thing can still be confusing.  I was agreeing with you, then I thought about the OP and wondered if they had fixed their keyboard.


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Re: Touched my AT-101W's 'x' keycap with a soldering iron...
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 31 December 2014, 23:31:12 »
updated, now includes a pic.

just noticed how nice this camera is... more detail than I see with the naked eye. Wish my old one hadn't been stolen though.

I saw your username, btw.
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