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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #200 on: Fri, 05 June 2026, 12:07:03 »
The Chyrosran22 new Beam Spring trailer was just posted!


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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #201 on: Fri, 05 June 2026, 14:00:08 »
Been using my B104 R2 for a couple weeks now and I love it  ;D! What an amazing project to come together... But damn did I not realize how truly big this thing is, I've (gently) placed my daily driver, which now lives at my office, on top for scale.

So far have been blessed with little to no issues, with one exception: small bits of plastic flake off some part of the beam spring module which settle down onto the pcb and cause keys to not register correctly. Has happened 3 times now which requires opening up the case and removing the debris. Not sure exactly what part they are from, but if I had to guess, the "beam barrel part B", or the keycap stem, or maybe even the bottom of the keycaps? The flakes are all white and plastic. I didn't want to mess with the module too much but in hindsight I should have attempted to locate the module the flake came from and inspected it to see which part is the culprit. Next time it happens Ill try to document it.

During keycap assembly some caps were harder to put on than others and required more force, this could have caused some plastic part around the stem or keycap to break off?

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Just re-read this part of the manual:
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When putting the press fit washer back on the module, it is important that the module is pressed all the way down with a minimal amount of force; not so much force that you break one of the plastic legs of that white part inside the beam module.

Broken white “leg” on the beam barrel part B:  you may notice a broken off white part when removing a module for adjustment.  Sometimes this is hinted at when you can’t press a module down all the way. 

This might be the same issue, however the broken off flakes I observed do not resemble the legs, it is possible its a sliver of the leg though.
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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #202 on: Fri, 05 June 2026, 15:23:23 »
Yes, you may have cracked or fractured parts of the legs when installing many of the keycaps (I have done this before, in my earlier testing of the early new beam spring keyboards years ago!).  You can sometimes detect it if the key module without an installed key wobbles a bit more than the other keys. 

Absolutely little to no force is needed to install the project keycaps, as mentioned in the very first sentence of Action Step 6 Keycap Installation:
"Be extremely gentle when pressing each key down to install it; you can easily break or fracture the white part of the beam module if you press too hard."

Now to think how to fix what was done:  I recommend trying to more quickly expose which keys are bad, to avoid you having to keep fixing things as they make themselves known.  What I might do is take a large sturdy flat object (something like the key set box, protected on the bottom side with a cotton towel etc.) and use it to press all of the keys down gently many times, maybe 100 times or more, and then manually press each key a bunch of times from slightly different angles, taking note of which ones don't feel right or produce an inconsistent signal in the Level Monitor screen of the diagnostic tool.  Then replace those modules with some of your spares from the first aid kit.  As always be extremely gentle with this method so as not to break or scratch any keys.
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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #203 on: Fri, 05 June 2026, 18:24:33 »
Thank you for the reply, yes the corrective action you recommended is actually what I did earlier in an attempt to discover more keys affected. I opened the case twice this morning as a result of that, frustratingly a new key will become defective after Ive already put the case back together! haha

The modules under which I removed the loose pieces of plastic feel completely normal and have no detectable faults (by feel and by the leyden jar diagnostic tool) so Im deciding to leave them in for now. I guess Ill know if I really need to replace the module if the same ones fail repeatedly.

I thought I was pretty careful during keycap installation, I only applied as much force as necessary to install each one, but after finishing, I noticed many of the keycaps resting at different heights, I know its not the modules themselves as I inspected them all pre-installation to ensure they were all uniform in appearance, looking from multiple angles, pressing each one, etc... For the more egregious caps, I pushed them in a little more to get them more in line with the other caps. These modules definitely required more force than the others to have the keycap installed. There were only about 2-3 modules whose stems felt like they fit the keycap like a glove and required no force. Im assuming the factory that made these had some sort of tolerance for the dimensions of the stems, and similarly with the keycaps, and the slight variances resulted in some keycaps needing a more forceful install.

For the rest that are still higher than the others, Im hoping that days of typing will eventually move them down little by little. Im about to open the case for the 3rd time today now that Im finished with work and given the entire board your recommended mass press treatment (hopefully 8 hours of typing will have helped dislodge the rest of the pieces I havent discovered yet)
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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #204 on: Fri, 05 June 2026, 19:29:56 »
Thanks for the update.  As a general note, these key sets are all from the same one production batch made years ago, that started shipping with the Round 1 boards; they do not have reports of disintegrating, and neither do the beam modules.  If one key out of 100 was bad then that would be one thing but for many keys to be affected and only on your board and not the hundreds of others that shipped in recent years, that is another thing.

With gentle pressing, all keys should be installable to the same relative height, not perfect like an MX cap but more than acceptable.

I am posting as I don't want folks to think this is a product defect, as not one person has reported it after years and hundreds of beam spring boards shipped.  And for many modules, not just one or two to be affected, and only on your board, points towards a specific problem with one user.

Another idea may be to hold the board vertically and remove all the keycaps to see if there is some debris, and then do one final careful wiping of the large capacitive PCB and the beam flippers.  Before putting the keys back, check the tops of each beam module as there may be some small flashing, though this is not likely.

You may want to also cover the keyboard when not in use as you may have a dusty environment.

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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #205 on: Fri, 05 June 2026, 19:45:32 »
"New Model F Labs B104 Beam spring keyboard with solenoid typing test"

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1tuzrze/my_chonky_boy/

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"They feel awesome, it's a very unique experience to type on it, something never been felt in my life, not even a Model F can resembles the key feel. Smooth, deep thock and click happening simultaneously, you can't really describe it accurately, just like having the premium curry in your mouth, you can tell what's the ingredients in it, but it's indescribable when all the chemistry happening in your mouth. I no longer crave for another keyboard (except the unshipped B62), I think this is the end of my keyboard journey."

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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #206 on: Sat, 06 June 2026, 00:49:56 »
Thank you for the additional tips! Also it is not my intention to discourage other users interested in the product, but rather an attempt to help other users with the same issue or point out new issues you may not have encountered yet. If we can identify the weaknesses and improve upon them everyone benefits. I get why you would be skeptical of one user reporting issues others have not, I encounter that daily at my job haha. Perhaps there are others, but they've encountered and solved the issue without saying anything here. If you're another user reading this who encountered the same issue, do NOT throw away your "broken" modules and continue reading!

So, after inspecting the entire module for a couple faulty keys I finally found the culprit. It's not the legs at all, it's the little plastic cap that secures the metal part to the beam barrel! I was relieved to find the cause, I could finally move on to repair and prevention.

See the attached photo for reference.

The problem: In the manual, there is a disassembled module that looks a little different, but structurally the same as mine. In the manual, this plastic part is much thicker than on the modules I have (as well as a different colored o-ring & a metal washer but maybe that module was a prototype or something). It seems somewhere along the line the spec for this part has changed from that original pic in the manual, or maybe it's a manufacturer issue, or maybe the photos are playing tricks on my eyes. In any case, this thickness is key - these "caps" are very fragile and under the tension of the metal part in an assembled module, it's enough force to bend or even break off the edges where the metal pushes against that cap. I took a flashlight and closely inspected other modules in my board, all in all about 10 more keys had plastic bits where a stress crack was forming or already formed, leaving a leaf of plastic hanging on by a thread (see other photo for broken off pieces.)

How to fix: Removal of the problematic module is needed, but if you're careful, full disassembly can be avoided and save a lot of time. I doubt many people have this tool, but I used a watchband springbar remover. It's fully metal, long enough to reach into the module from the beam flipper side (while holding the module upside down), very thin, and one end is slightly forked. Absolutely perfect for the job required.

If you dont have this specific tool, try a toothpick or something else that is sturdy, thin, and long enough to get into the module from underneath.

I angled the module to expose the plastic bit about to shear off, and lightly pushed against the broken bit until it flaked off. Flip the module right side up and give the stem a couple taps to get the debris to fall down. Take care to not accidentally break off the entire  cap as you "clean off" these flaking bits, it seems like the metal part won't be able to stay on if it completely breaks. I did not come close to doing that for mine but I could see a heavy hand going too far. Also, the stress line from the weakened plastic caused the break to occur cleanly along that line. Now unfortunately my module is not "whole", but I'd rather have a still functional module than using a spare due to such a tiny fault. Truly the most annoying part was painstakingly inspecting each module while they were in the case to look for hairline cracks and figuring out which key they belong to, then flipping it back over to find the corresponding keycap and removing it, then flipping it back over! And having to screw and unscrew the metal plate+PCB to keep the modules in place as I flipped it over each time. If you are feeling risky (and I highly advise against it) you could just hold the module plate, PCB plate, and PCB tightly together as you turn it over. I tried this once out of impatience, and while everything turned out ok for the most part, I jostled some modules out of place and also accidentally managed to dislocate a beam flipper for a module I had not removed the keycap for, forcing me to turn it over AGAIN and then remove the keycap and the affected module. Whew.

Take care to not push in the bottom of the beam flipper while handling the module upside down as this can cause the metal parts connecting the flipper to dislocate, full disassembly & reassembly is then required!.


Prevention: Well, unfortunately there's not a whole lot one can do to prevent an incredibly thin piece of plastic that undergoes constant movement from developing a crack and breaking, but once adjusted you wont have to do it again for the same module as there is no longer any plastic resting against the moving part! :thumb: What one can do is inspect their modules as I did and look for modules that have cracks already, I highly recommend getting ahead of the issue so you don't have to take the board apart 10 times in a month.

All in all, not every module suffered from the issue, but plenty enough did that I wanted to check every single module, not just those showing an error in the diagnostic tool. Over enough use, as the plastic is exposed to pressure over and over, I'm sure it's an issue I'll have to address again.

Last I'd like to thank Ellipse again for an incredible passion project, and have a couple questions:

1. Could your manufacturer make a slightly thicker plastic cap for the beam barrel part B where the metal part is attached? I'd hazard that a couple extra millimeters would do it.
2. If the above is not an option, is it possible to sell just that part? It's the most fragile piece in the entire module, so it'd be convenient to buy extras of the piece most likely to fail instead of whole modules.


TL;DR The plastic that secures the metal part to beam barrel part B is too thin (at least for my batch of modules) and the tension caused by the bending metal is enough to weaken or straight up break off bits of plastic, causing them to eventually fall down onto the PCB and cause input detection errors.
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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #207 on: Sat, 06 June 2026, 00:52:15 »
~Uploaded a duplicate photo instead of the broken off pieces, see below~

If you are a user seeing these inside your case you more than likely have the same issue I did.

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Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK+122+62 Reproduction Project! now shipping
« Reply #208 on: Sat, 06 June 2026, 02:24:21 »
Thanks for your investigation!  Since these same parts have been out for years with folks using these keyboards daily and not reporting such an issue, my guess is that the extra force you mentioned installing the keycaps put a lot of pressure on that part, which contacts the beam flipper when pressed.

Fortunately I have a lot of extra Part B's only.  Please email me to arrange for some free replacements once you know how many you need.  If anyone else made such a mistake during setup I'd be happy to mail some Part B replacements your way as a courtesy.  Are you seeing these on your most frequently typed keys, or more so on the keys you remember pressing more forcefully to install?

Again, I want to emphasize that the modules have been out for more than 3 years with zero reports of flaking, but yours started flaking within the first month after installation which is not normal for these keyboards.