small keyboards with home-row-ctrl

[lucas]

hi. i looked for similar threads and didn't find any.

i'm looking for a small (<100 keys) keyboard with ctrl on the home row (either swappable or hardwired).

so far, i've come up with these candidates:

filco tenkeyless
realforce 87u tenkeyless
happy hacking pro 2
happy hacking lite 2

what others am i missing?

many thanks!

[imsto]

tg3 & cherry 4100

[lucas]

i want it to be software-transparent.

so either:
* the ctrl key is always on the home row
* dip switch can be flipped (or any other hardware switch) and keycaps swapped

thanks!

[ch_123]

Which OS are you using?

[AndrewZorn]

did not know a filco had home-row ctrl

[xsphat]

did not know a filco had home-row ctrl

Every keyboard I've owned has no matter what the button says :smile:

[AndrewZorn]

dont you mean that your OS has the ability to detect caps lock and switch it with something else

[microsoft windows]

Get a Model F. Oops, I forgot! They aren't the most compact things in the world.

[rdjack21]

Yea for hardware only switching of the Ctrl key you only have the HHKB Pro or the 87U/86U.

[xsphat]

dont you mean that your OS has the ability to detect caps lock and switch it with something else

Mac OS X lets you remap the modifier keys including caps lock.

[AndrewZorn]

certainly not reprogram any keyboard
thats what i mean
anything is possible with software
but i dont think thats what OP meant

[lucas]

i wonder why i thought that the filcos had this option.

i use a variety of oses. mostly freebsd and openbsd. i don't use xorg, and i don't think there's a way to remap on the console. i just love hardware solutions that always work.

so the only boards with (a) ctrl on the home row, or (b) ctrl and caps lock switchable, are:

* realforce 86u tenkeyless
* realforce 87u tenkeyless
* happy hacking pro 2
* happy hacking lite 2

yeah?

thanks for all the replies! <3

[lowpoly]

The Marquardt Industrial in my SIG would have that.



It's not in production anymore though.

[Rajagra]

Every keyboard I've owned has no matter what the button says :smile:

What about those funny Apple boards that have some weird delay added to the capslock key?

so the only boards with (a) ctrl on the home row, or (b) ctrl and caps lock switchable, are:

* realforce 86u tenkeyless
* realforce 87u tenkeyless
* happy hacking pro 2
* happy hacking lite 2

yeah?

Hmmm. I have 3 of those models and I don't have Ctrl replacing capslock. I feel kinda guilty now.

[ch_123]

i wonder why i thought that the filcos had this option.

i use a variety of oses. mostly freebsd and openbsd. i don't use xorg, and i don't think there's a way to remap on the console. i just love hardware solutions that always work.

You should be able to make your own key layout map for the console. Not sure how you'd do it in BSD though...

so the only boards with (a) ctrl on the home row, or (b) ctrl and caps lock switchable, are:

* realforce 86u tenkeyless
* realforce 87u tenkeyless
* happy hacking pro 2
* happy hacking lite 2

yeah?

The 86U AFAIK doesn't support the swapping of Caps and Ctrl. There's a few older keyboards that have Ctrl in the right place, such as the IBM Model F.

[rdjack21]

The 86U AFAIK doesn't support the swapping of Caps and Ctrl. There's a few older keyboards that have Ctrl in the right place, such as the IBM Model F.

Hmm dip switch position 1 on mine does this and that is the way I have mine setup.

[ch_123]

Do they include the extra keycaps for the swap like the 87U does?