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Offline quadibloc

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« Reply #50 on: Tue, 15 September 2009, 11:07:10 »
Quote from: JBert;118044
Reviews from the BTC weren't positive, the same may apply for the Atex.


It wouldn't surprise me if that were true. I was curious about the layout, that being a significant electronic typesetting system. I had no awareness of what the tactile characteristics of the keyboard might have been.

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« Reply #51 on: Tue, 15 September 2009, 12:03:27 »
Quote from: Hamblet;118098
I am the one who got FKB 82 Pro in Japan Yahoo..
It was new one in original packing. Untouched, waiting just for me couple of years.
If my memory does not fail me, it was a little bit less then the price of Realforce that time.
But, I cleared my mind (I hypnosised myself not to climb ALPSssssss). So, sold it to another guy quickly. That is why it is not on my tried list.


:rofl: It would have been very hard for me to not open that box and play with it a little. Are you the one that sniped that Topre MD01C0 out from under me? It was just like the MD01B0 in my sig below but different model number. I'm really curious what the difference is.
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Offline quadibloc

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« Reply #52 on: Tue, 15 September 2009, 16:38:46 »
Incidentally, taking a close look at the images of the Atex keyboard, I noticed that one of the two specimens shown had keys the legends of which were supplied by labels - and both had cylinder keys, not cupped, like the PC.

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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 15 September 2009, 16:40:41 »
MD01CO)
Never heard.

How about contact Moonlight Cafe, he know almost everything about Topre.
He lives in Japan. Speaks well English. Moreover very kind person.
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« Reply #54 on: Tue, 24 November 2009, 16:25:26 »
Quote from: hamlet;116494
My second stop is PLUM 86, a Chinese brand mechanical keyboard, using Cherry blue switch. It was amazing that the designer can have the numbers pad into such a small layout without the shrink of the key size, and the blue switch clicks very nice, it is a very good choice for SOHO, (maybe a little noisy in the office) but you know, the nonstandard layout always brings small trouble, for Plum 86, the position of the backspace will kill you, you fingers will need to take a flight to reach it. Although you can use some software to remap the key function, but when you plug in another keyboard, you need to reset the layout, for these reasons, it is not my terminal, and I have to go on.


This was the earlier post about the PLUM keyboard I was mentioning.

Offline chimera15

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« Reply #55 on: Tue, 24 November 2009, 17:59:53 »
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This was the earlier post about the PLUM keyboard I was mentioning.

Ah that's really interesting.  I missed this post.  The original post was amazing, and great insight about the backspace key.  I bet it wouldn't be too hard to rewire the backspace key somehow.

Maybe rewire the whole number row, and shift it to the left, and move the tilde to that wierd location, and put the backspace where the + key is.  The location of the . is also really weird.  I'm not so hyped on this board now that I noticed these.  Why would a keyboard enthusiast design a board with such a strange layout...

There's something really odd with that backspace placement, did they put an extra number in or something?  The siig has room for a double sized spaced backspace, and space left over that the tab key has to cover up, why is the Plum missing a backspace there......odd, really odd..  The return key is even double spaced on the plum...what the heck.






You can see with the siig, if you take out the extra space the backspace takes up, there'd be enough room for a tilde key, so what's going on with the Plum not having any room for a normal sized backspace?  With the extra large return key, it should have enough room for an extended backspace.

Oh man! Figured it out!!!  There's no [] or ;' keys either!!! The hell!

Wow you can see they're parts of the function keys now!! Geesh!

That's an odd board...wow.

The question mark is part of the f12 key??????

Maybe I'll pass on this one, I've had my fill of crazy layed out keyboards. I had such high hopes.
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 November 2009, 18:25:47 by chimera15 »
Alps boards:
white real complicated: 1x modified siiig minitouch kb1903,  hhkb light2 english steampunk hack, wireless siig minitouch hack
white with rubber damper(cream)+clicky springs: 2x modified siig minitouch kb1903 1x modified siig minitouch kb1948
white fake simplified:   1x white smk-85, 1x Steampunk compact board hack
white real simplified: 1x unitek k-258
low profile: 1x mint m1242 in box
black: ultra mini wrist keyboard hack
blue: Japanese hhk2 lite hack, 1x siig minitouch pcb/doubleshot dc-2014 caps. kb1903, 1x modified kb1948 Siig minitouch
rainbow test boards:  mck-84sx


Offline J888www

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« Reply #56 on: Tue, 24 November 2009, 18:50:36 »
Seems the designer of the Plum incorporated many keys into the Function Keys to save space, everything seems to be there but in a different layout. Seems a good idea as those keys are not so often used. This format, it becomes a NotTenkeyless,
    KBC Official Point of Sale. Seven cities dotted in different regions of China, seems this group of Keyboarders are trying to start a major business. Just click on the sky-blue Link to check what they're selling.
     Hey Hey, did I just invent a name for keyboard fanatics ?? :nod:
                  Keyboarders Forum ,seems more apt :nod:
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 November 2009, 18:53:55 by J888www »
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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #57 on: Tue, 24 November 2009, 22:46:23 »
Quote from: J888www;136057
Seems the designer of the Plum incorporated many keys into the Function Keys to save space, everything seems to be there but in a different layout. Seems a good idea as those keys are not so often used. This format, it becomes a NotTenkeyless,
    KBC Official Point of Sale. Seven cities dotted in different regions of China, seems this group of Keyboarders are trying to start a major business. Just click on the sky-blue Link to check what they're selling.
     Hey Hey, did I just invent a name for keyboard fanatics ?? :nod:
                  Keyboarders Forum ,seems more apt :nod:

If they can make that board though, why can't they just make a siig minitouch with cherries. It looks like they used the same case.  


Is that board the same size as a normal siig minitouch, or is it longer?

From the relative size of the flourish on the pen holder, it looks like it might be about an inch longer, but tough to tell.

If they remade the siig with cherries I'd take 2 or 3 if it was less than $60-70
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 November 2009, 22:51:35 by chimera15 »
Alps boards:
white real complicated: 1x modified siiig minitouch kb1903,  hhkb light2 english steampunk hack, wireless siig minitouch hack
white with rubber damper(cream)+clicky springs: 2x modified siig minitouch kb1903 1x modified siig minitouch kb1948
white fake simplified:   1x white smk-85, 1x Steampunk compact board hack
white real simplified: 1x unitek k-258
low profile: 1x mint m1242 in box
black: ultra mini wrist keyboard hack
blue: Japanese hhk2 lite hack, 1x siig minitouch pcb/doubleshot dc-2014 caps. kb1903, 1x modified kb1948 Siig minitouch
rainbow test boards:  mck-84sx


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« Reply #58 on: Wed, 25 November 2009, 06:23:42 »
lol  you guys'v already saw KBC black black keycaps  
哈哈  看到老乡了。
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