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Re: USPS Confirmed Scum of the Earth
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 21 January 2016, 07:29:25 »
How is this an issue for people that make one off purchases? Who cares what the percent increase is when the actual difference is the price increase? No one is paying based on a percentage so that is a moot point. If you cannot afford less than $1.00 more, then perhaps you should reconsider your purchase and budget in general. A you should not have a $1.00 margin.

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Re: USPS Confirmed Scum of the Earth
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 21 January 2016, 07:42:42 »
How is this an issue for people that make one off purchases? Who cares what the percent increase is when the actual difference is the price increase? No one is paying based on a percentage so that is a moot point. If you cannot afford less than $1.00 more, then perhaps you should reconsider your purchase and budget in general. A you should not have a $1.00 margin.

For me the two issues I've got are click-n-ship online shipping is no longer discounted versus walking into a post office and the cheap international first class price doubled.

I mean sure it's only a couple dollars here and there but it adds up pretty quick.

Besides when you're selling things people want cheapest possible prices.
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Re: USPS Confirmed Scum of the Earth
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 21 January 2016, 07:46:26 »


How is this an issue for people that make one off purchases? Who cares what the percent increase is when the actual difference is the price increase? No one is paying based on a percentage so that is a moot point. If you cannot afford less than $1.00 more, then perhaps you should reconsider your purchase and budget in general. A you should not have a $1.00 margin.

For me the two issues I've got are click-n-ship online shipping is no longer discounted versus walking into a post office and the cheap international first class price doubled.

I mean sure it's only a couple dollars here and there but it adds up pretty quick.
Those are fair points and also non-trivial increases.

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Re: USPS Confirmed Scum of the Earth
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 21 January 2016, 07:56:02 »
Sorry JD, I should have been clearer, that was poor phrasing. I should have said something like “drive out of business” instead of “defund”.

There has been a financial shortfall at USPS for several years, which makes up the difference by borrowing from the treasury. They’ve been at their $15 billion statutory debt limit, and have net income of about $-5 billion per year.

That’s a deceptive summary though. The main reason the USPS has such a huge budget shortfall is the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006.

The PAEA was a bipartisan bill, intended to tweak various bits of post office rate schedules, bureaucratic procedure, etc. It’s a complicated piece of legislation, so I’m not exactly sure everything that went into negotiating it, but anyway, it passed with broad support in Congress. However, the Bush Administration insisted that a rule be stuck in about pre-funding USPS pension obligations. It was crazy for the Democrats to go along with this plan, I’m not sure what they were thinking, but I guess they didn’t realize it would be such a big problem (in 2006 the USPS was doing pretty well; mail volumes have tanked afterward), and wanted to strike a compromise so they could get their bill passed.

The rule change goes like this: Up until 2006, the USPS had been paying pensions of retired employees as they came along. The PAEA required that the USPS must instead pre-fund 100% of an actuarial estimate of its future pension obligations, and required that they get to that point within 10 years. Since the USPS has a sizable number of employees, pre-funding all of their pension obligations many decades into the future costs a lot of money, an extra $5+ billion/year. (As far as I understand no other institution, public or private, faces this kind of requirement.)

There’s not necessarily anything inherently wrong with pre-funding pension obligations, but requiring that it be done so quickly, during a period of declining post office revenue (oops, right before a recession) hit the USPS budget like a ton of bricks.

There have been repeated attempts by Democrats to offer various fixes, but the Republicans are in charge of Congress, and are happy to see the USPS flounder. They’ve been preventing USPS from scaling back services, adjusting rates, consolidating rural post offices, etc., they won’t let the USPS enter any new lines of business, they won’t let the USPS run at losses (unlike other government institutions), they won’t raise the statutory debt limit, and they definitely won’t consider fixes to the way USPS is required to prefund its pension obligations. In my opinion their ultimate goal is to see the USPS get privatized.
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Re: USPS Confirmed Scum of the Earth
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 21 January 2016, 08:33:34 »
US Congress is a bunch of big money crooks, and has been since the days of Washington. These people fight over pennies when it comes to the public good, but spend dollars with wild abandon when it comes to their pet projects.

What's this $5 billion shortfall in the face of $700b every year put into the US military machine? Does anyone really think that decreasing US military spending by $100b a year will result in Putin sending tanks into Prague, Iran conquering Saudi Arabia, China invading the Philippines or North Korea shooting nukes at Hawaii? And in contrast, even if USA increased military spending to $1400b yearly, would that be enough to stop ISIS from radicalizing malcontent or mentally ill people (Mo's Mad Marauders) to behead people?

Privatization of any public utility service in the USA could lead to some really serious economic consequences for minorities. I never had a good experience living in US ghettoes, but at least there were still some things we could count on - basic water, electricity, USPS.

jacobolus, let me offer the prediction that should come true if the Repubs get USPS privatized. The new USPS will provide great service to Bill Gates' neighbourhood. Warren Buffett would also be praising the postal service for its efficiency.

I also predict:
no more USPS office in Baltimore.
whole of Chicago south side (or any place overpopulated by minorities) served by one post office.
sending mail from South Central LA to Detroit (or whatever black neighbourhood to another black neighbourhood) will take months.
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Re: USPS Confirmed Scum of the Earth
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 21 January 2016, 14:25:12 »
My biggest issue is that I can no longer do First Class via the USPS website.  I have to go in person and wait in line only for them to try to up-sell me when all I want is the cheapest option.  The price increase is annoying, but not the end of the world, just have to add it into sales now. 
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Re: USPS Confirmed Scum of the Earth
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 21 January 2016, 14:32:02 »
My biggest issue is that I can no longer do First Class via the USPS website.  I have to go in person and wait in line only for them to try to up-sell me when all I want is the cheapest option.  The price increase is annoying, but not the end of the world, just have to add it into sales now.
I think that was the case already with first class, since the last change a few years ago. That's why many went with stamps.com, since you could still buy first class through them.

And try convincing an international buyer to pay $13.50 in shipping (first class bubble mailer) on a $5 novelty cap.
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