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Offline ingeniousmonkey

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Hot swappable (Light Strike) Optical Switches;
Waterproof & dustproof completely, with nanometer technology;
Full RGB backlit, fully user-defined;
Smart software programming for multiple programmable layers;


61-key poker layout and 62-key with dedicated arrow keys layout are available.

The group buy will come in next week.
Multiple buy choices: the pre-assembled finished products, custom kits, DIY PCBs & parts can be chosen

Are you interested in them?

  61-key Poker layout keyboard details  http://www.pc-100.com/portfolio/61-key-light-strike-optical-switches-mechanical-keyboard-waterproof-dustproof-board-poker-layout/

  62-key keyboard with dedicated arrow keys details http://www.pc-100.com/portfolio/62-key-compact-rgb-mechanical-keyboard-arrow-keys-optical-switches-pbt-keycaps/

 Optical Switches introductions  http://www.pc-100.com/photoelectric-switches-optical-switches-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-optical-mechanical-keyboard-switch/

Update news:
The group buy will  start on September 5.

GB begins:
GB at geekhack: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91420.0

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« Last Edit: Thu, 07 September 2017, 20:30:30 by ingeniousmonkey »

Offline ingeniousmonkey

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Re: [IC] Hot swappable optical switches 60% RGB programmable keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 22 August 2017, 22:16:24 »
Hi, geeks
Optical Switch is  a new kind of switch, different from MX-based switch. Any discusses, suggestions, or advice to us? Thanks a lot in advance. :)

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Re: [IC] Hot swappable optical switches 60% RGB programmable keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 23 August 2017, 08:29:18 »
Have you acquired the rights to use the "Poker" trademark? I'm sorry but the page looks fishy to me.

Mentioning something simply as "Optical Switch" also sounds fishy.
Bloody/A4Tech's "Light Strike" switches are known here.
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Re: [IC] Hot swappable optical switches 60% RGB programmable keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 23 August 2017, 09:01:57 »
Have you acquired the rights to use the "Poker" trademark? I'm sorry but the page looks fishy to me.

Mentioning something simply as "Optical Switch" also sounds fishy.
Bloody/A4Tech's "Light Strike" switches are known here.

First of all, thank you very much for your first feedback to us.

1. I wonder "Poker" is a trademark? belong to which company?
2.The page looks not nice, we'll improve it. Thank you for your advice.
3."Optical Switch" is called widely in China, so we call it this name. maybe it is not so nice, but it is alive. Thank you for telling me "Bloody/A4Tech's "Light Strike" switches are known here"


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More introductions:

1. (Light Strike) Optical switches are with high reaction speed and durable than MX-based switches', especially for gaming. Hope it can be an excellent gaming keyboard. Of Course, office or programming use will be no any problem, it is also very good( different kinds of optical switches can be chosen, such as brown switch, blue switch, red switch, black switch...)

2.Optical Switches are used in 60% keyboard for the first time by us. It is an innovation design in mechanical keyboards industry. We hope to hear some advice from community users.

3.About PCB board's warterproof, we adopted nanometer waterproof technology, it can let the whole board be water-repellent completely, washable, even can reach IP68 level. In cybercafe, office, home, even adverse working conditions, you will never be afraid of any water, coffee...
« Last Edit: Sat, 26 August 2017, 10:31:48 by ingeniousmonkey »

Offline Peiweisgreat

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Interesting idea and concept, but the page leaves much to be desired. I would try to find someone online to just translate your page for you since you are trying to sell to an english speaking crowd, the descriptions are choppy to read. Also CIY optical switches seem pointless. No one sells optical switches in the first place and I'm not sure if anyone will be making any of these switches anytime soon. Also the claim of your waterproofing seems flimsy without a demo or anything like that to actually prove it. There is a lot of things to work on with your page, and I am not trying to **** on you, but I'm going to have to hard pass until I see something more legitimate.

Offline ingeniousmonkey

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Interesting idea and concept, but the page leaves much to be desired. I would try to find someone online to just translate your page for you since you are trying to sell to an english speaking crowd, the descriptions are choppy to read. Also CIY optical switches seem pointless. No one sells optical switches in the first place and I'm not sure if anyone will be making any of these switches anytime soon. Also the claim of your waterproofing seems flimsy without a demo or anything like that to actually prove it. There is a lot of things to work on with your page, and I am not trying to **** on you, but I'm going to have to hard pass until I see something more legitimate.

Many thanks for your very sincere advice!

1. Yes, we have much work to do with our pages.  Actually, in a hurry, we upload these pages, in order to let these optical keyboards can be showed for the first time on the next week's group buy event.  After that, we will improve these pages more and more.

2.About CIY optical switches, what we used is made by Gateron. You know, Gateron MX-based switches can be bought anywhere. And this kind of optical switch is a new product of Gateron. Now it has not be sold widely, but we think very soon, some distributors can sell them. On our website, from this group buy, we will sell Gateron optical switches individually. This can let users use a mixed switches keyboard(brown, blue,red, black... and multi switches built-in one keyboard) easily.

3.About warterproof, we are going to make a video record: Put the keyboard  in the water completely, then take it out, after shooking the water, the keyboard can be worked on perfectly... What do you think of this idea? ;)

Thanks again for all your good suggestions!
« Last Edit: Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:52:29 by ingeniousmonkey »

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Update with IC :)

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Update News:
The group buy will start on September 5.

Offline hanya

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2.About CIY optical switches, what we used is made by Gateron. You know, Gateron MX-based switches can be bought anywhere. And this kind of optical switch is a new product of Gateron. Now it has not be sold widely, but we think very soon, some distributors can sell them. On our website, from this group buy, we will sell Gateron optical switches individually. This can let users use a mixed switches keyboard(brown, blue,red, black... and multi switches built-in one keyboard) easily.
I see, this is the switch by Gateron you are talking:
http://www.gateron.com/supply/21.html
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Offline ingeniousmonkey

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2.About CIY optical switches, what we used is made by Gateron. You know, Gateron MX-based switches can be bought anywhere. And this kind of optical switch is a new product of Gateron. Now it has not be sold widely, but we think very soon, some distributors can sell them. On our website, from this group buy, we will sell Gateron optical switches individually. This can let users use a mixed switches keyboard(brown, blue,red, black... and multi switches built-in one keyboard) easily.
I see, this is the switch by Gateron you are talking:
http://www.gateron.com/supply/21.html
Yes.

Offline Tiramisuu

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I'm very interested in the gateron 21's.

The photo-optics require no debounce and if I understand it correctly they also have the ability to be treated in a semi analog fashion.    Potentially either allowing for use as an analog style switch OR for configuring the activation point on the keyboard.   

The potential for improving linear feel is also interesting depending on the quality of the switches.  Gateron has made some very nice switches recently but they don't seem to have the same quality control or tolerances that Cherry has.

Is this correct?

What mcu have you chose to go with to develop your firmware?

Thanks,
T

Keyboard error F1 to continue.

Poker 2, Gherkin, Lets Split, Planck, Filco

Offline ingeniousmonkey

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I'm very interested in the gateron 21's.

The photo-optics require no debounce and if I understand it correctly they also have the ability to be treated in a semi analog fashion.    Potentially either allowing for use as an analog style switch OR for configuring the activation point on the keyboard.   

The potential for improving linear feel is also interesting depending on the quality of the switches.  Gateron has made some very nice switches recently but they don't seem to have the same quality control or tolerances that Cherry has.

Is this correct?

What mcu have you chose to go with to develop your firmware?

Thanks,
T

About optical switch:

1. Photoelectric switch is controlled by infrared ray sensor.
2. Infrared ray between the couple of infrared sensors was blocked or passed to control the photoelectric switch’s “ON/OFF” status.
3.The new generation of optical switch is to set the infrared sensors welded on the keyboard PCB separately, while the “switch” is only used to trigger the infrared ray, thus, the “optical switch” was divided into two parts, the couple of infrared sensor, as an electronic part, was fixed on the PCB, while the “switch”, as an mechanical part, can be pulled off.

Don't know I spoke it clear?

About Gateron switches' quality control or tolerances:
Actually, Gateron optical switch is the cooperation resulting from Gateron and GeekCutom Team ( GeekCustom Team is the R&D team belong to our company-Semitek). In the future, GeekCustom Team will launch GeekOptimization optical switch, in order to improve the quality and tolerances.

About MCU:
It is Semitek's exclusive ownership.


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Re: [IC] Hotswap optical switch (light strike)60% keyboard, DIY kit (update news)
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 06 September 2017, 09:08:26 »
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Re: [IC] Hotswap optical switch (light strike)60% keyboard, DIY kit (update news)
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 08:43:59 »
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Re: [IC] Hotswap optical switch (light strike)60% keyboard, DIY kit (update news)
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 03:40:28 »
Mod Note: Please continue discussion in the GB Thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91420.0


Introduction of Gateron Optical Switches:

Gateron silver optical switch:
It is a rapid switch,especially suitable for e-sport gaming
Output resolution: 1.0±0.1mm
Operating force:  45±15gf

Others Gateron optical switches:
Black optical switch
Output resolution: 2.0±0.6mm
Operating force:  60±15gf

Brown optical switch
Output resolution: 2.0±0.6mm
Operating force:  55±15gf

Red optical switch
Output resolution: 2.0±0.6mm
Operating force:  45±15gf

Blue optical switche
Output resolution: 2.3±0.6mm
Operating force:  55±15gf

Mod Note: Please continue discussion in the GB Thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91420.0
« Last Edit: Wed, 13 September 2017, 06:12:36 by infiniti »