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Offline mind_funeral

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Tex Yoda trackpoint HELP!
« on: Thu, 18 August 2016, 23:52:32 »
I just put together my tex yoda and everything worked perfectly.  I shut down my computer to go meet a friend and when I got back the keyboard works but the mouse buttons and trackpoint don't!  Literally nothing has moved in the 2 hours I was gone.  I took the thing apart and everything looks fine except one of the blue wires to the 3 mouse buttons got pinched between the case and PCB.  It's flattened but no bare wire is showing through.  I also tried it on 2 different computers and the trackpoint and its buttons don't work.  This kit is brand new please help!
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Re: Tex Yoda trackpoint HELP!
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 19 August 2016, 01:57:39 »
That's not fun!

In the absence of anything else that could have caused it to die assume the wire snapped inside the insulation where it got crushed and replace/splice it, can't do any harm.
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Re: Tex Yoda trackpoint HELP!
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 19 August 2016, 11:21:07 »
That's not fun!

In the absence of anything else that could have caused it to die assume the wire snapped inside the insulation where it got crushed and replace/splice it, can't do any harm.

That wire was only to the buttons though.  The trackpoint doesn't work either.  I guess I'll try to splice it but its weird that it worked at first and now it doesnt...
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Re: Tex Yoda trackpoint HELP!
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 19 August 2016, 11:22:33 »
Ok so I just plugged it back in and now it works...  Hopefully it stays working...
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Re: Tex Yoda trackpoint HELP!
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 19 August 2016, 11:26:00 »
Nevermind... It just stopped again...
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Re: Tex Yoda trackpoint HELP!
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 21 August 2016, 23:29:37 »
Nevermind... It just stopped again...

Hello !!

I'm sorry hear that !!

Do u know how to solder connector ??? you can try solder connector on the trackpoint module

or you can mail to me ( justin@tex-design.com.tw)
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Re: Tex Yoda trackpoint HELP!
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 23 August 2016, 07:34:25 »
Nevermind... It just stopped again...

Hello !!

I'm sorry hear that !!

Do u know how to solder connector ??? you can try solder connector on the trackpoint module

or you can mail to me ( justin@tex-design.com.tw)

Thank you for the reply. 

Basically the trackpoint and 3 buttons work for about 10 minutes after the keyboard has been unplugged for a long time, then all the sudden trackpoint and the 3 buttons stop working.  When it stops working, I can unplug the keyboard and plug it back in but the trackpoint and 3 buttons still won't work (even on another computer).  If I let the keyboard sit unplugged for a long period of time (like overnight), the trackpoint and 3 buttons will work for around 10 minutes.

Is it possibly a shorting issue?  Possibly an issue with the controller PCB (the PCB with the USB hub)?
I will fix the flattened cable and post pictures of the inside of the keyboard as soon as I can. 

PS. This keyboard was NEW without switches when I bought it.  It has never been used or soldered on before I owed it.
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Re: Tex Yoda trackpoint HELP!
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 25 August 2016, 08:26:54 »
Good news!

I'm not exactly sure how, but I somehow fixed the Yoda.  I took the keyboard back apart yesterday and started taking a closer look at things.

I initially thought the the soldered connection on the plug for the red wires on the trackpoint PCB was bad, but in the end it was fine.

Below is the wire I pinched. Which, also ended up being fine.


I had some issues with the trackpoint module and the 3 button module intermittently cutting out after about 10 minutes of use. 

I have disassembled and reassembled this board about 5 times scanning for issues. I noticed a few cold-soldered connections on the RMB and LMB so I desoldered 2 pins and resoldered them -- 1 on the LMB and 1 on the RMB. 

Note:  I'm not sure why, but getting solder to flow well on the 3 button PCB was damn near impossible (even with loads of flux).  I noticed the pads and PCB material looked different on the 3 button PCB compared to the main 61 key PCB.  The main keys soldered in like a dream.  I only used flux on the first half of the keys before I realized it soldered fine without it. 

The only other thing I did was roll the pinched wire around in my fingertips and got it back to looking semi-round. 

I'm not sure what exactly led to the trackpoint to start working again (or stop in the first place).  I don't know how having bad soldering on the 3 button PCB would affect the function of the track point itself as it functions 100% with the 3 button PCB disconnected.  Ultimately, I'm just glad it works again. I love this keyboard!

Here it is complete!  62g Zealios for the keyboard and 62g Zealiostotles for the "mouse" buttons. (taken on the Potato S6)


Lastly, big shoutout and thanks to justin.wu at Tex.  It's awesome that Tex is not only part of the community, but backs their products "no-questions-asked" (even though my problem didn't escalate that far).
« Last Edit: Thu, 25 August 2016, 08:39:40 by mind_funeral »
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