Vintage Russian kind of board thing

[prd]

Those keys have a certain charm. Seems it was meant to be part of something. The "vintage keyboard for vintage computers" description is funny, but of little explanatory value.

[EverythingIBM]

I like the "ТАБ" and "ИСП" buttons. I think Russian sythnesizers are more interesting. I don't think that ribbon cable would fit in my PS/2 port.

[prd]

Fit the ribbon cable into the right port and that red button will launch a missile out of your computer.

[kishy]

Fit the ribbon cable into the right port and that red button will launch a missile out of your computer.

And if you have a Mac, it'll launch iPad components at nearby babies.

[EverythingIBM]

Fit the ribbon cable into the right port and that red button will launch a missile out of your computer.

Well to coax your curiosity, it actually says "СТОП" which as everyone knows means "stop". Why it's in red, I don't know. Very strange layout if you can read it...

[ch_123]

And if you have a Mac, it'll launch iPad components at nearby babies.

To quote one of the great heroes of American literature, Maddox -

When the iPhone was first announced, CEO Steve Jobs spewed enough BS to cover a football field full of babies 3 feet deep in bull****, which sounds cool because he could have potentially murdered a football field full of babies, but he passed on this opportunity by introducing the phone instead.

[EverythingIBM]

And if you have a Mac, it'll launch iPad components at nearby babies.

What's even better is the iBM pod:

[kishy]

Lol Maddox is my hero, or was last time I was on his site, which hadn't been updated in ages, so I stopped visiting. Glad to see he got back at it.

I especially liked his thoughts on the iPhone.

[bitflipper]

What's even better is the iBM pod:

These would be the options on an iBM pod pad thing:

* Learn how to order some useless technical manuals
* Browse our impressive patent portfolio
* Use some extremely outdated, proprietary, awkward & badly designed software
* Upgrade advisor - learn how much more money you must spend on hardware to run our next OS revision
* Visit our website and sift through tons of general information webpages trying to find information on something specific that no one else in the world has ever attempted
* Help (were working on it) (coming soon) (that means in the next decade) (maybe) (in the meantime you might feel better if you purchase some useless technical manuals)
* Become a partner, pay us a bunch of money and we'll send you a big box of useless CDs every month
* View a short demo (4 hours) of us telling you about our great services and how you can benefit by sending us more money
* View testimonials of other people telling you iBM made them better people by sending us more money
* Update tour device name (Since this device didn't sell very well, we must change the name in a lame marketing attempt to change perception of this product)

[kishy]

Someone's got strong views on IBM, and it's not EverythingIBM this time...

[EverythingIBM]

Someone's got strong views on IBM, and it's not EverythingIBM this time...

The manuals part is true (but I use them often: kind of have to since IBM has billions of different model types).
Their website is often filled with useless stuff, not many people realize just *how* big ibm.com is. And sometimes many weird videos: one video had a macbook in it, shame on IBM...

The only useless CD I got from IBM (and I'm not even a paid-partner) was an outdated version of the lotus suite. I'm interested in trying OS/2 warp though. WARP TIME! Zzzzzzzzzzeooo.


Some of the IBM patents are a mouthful and make no sense whatsoever.

[ch_123]

These would be the options on an iBM pod pad thing:

* Learn how to order some useless technical manuals
* Browse our impressive patent portfolio
* Use some extremely outdated, proprietary, awkward & badly designed software
* Upgrade advisor - learn how much more money you must spend on hardware to run our next OS revision
* Visit our website and sift through tons of general information webpages trying to find information on something specific that no one else in the world has ever attempted
* Help (were working on it) (coming soon) (that means in the next decade) (maybe) (in the meantime you might feel better if you purchase some useless technical manuals)
* Become a partner, pay us a bunch of money and we'll send you a big box of useless CDs every month
* View a short demo (4 hours) of us telling you about our great services and how you can benefit by sending us more money
* View testimonials of other people telling you iBM made them better people by sending us more money
* Update tour device name (Since this device didn't sell very well, we must change the name in a lame marketing attempt to change perception of this product)

You forgot the bit where you pay $2,000 a month in support charges, and that's just the base figure - it rises depending on how much you use it.

[kishy]

I've wanted for quite a while one of those palmtop computers, but finding one in North America at any kind of sane cost is very, very hard. They were low production and are considered quite rare, as I understand it.

[Specter_57]

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"EveryThing International- BM" said this:
"I'm interested in trying OS/2 Warp though.. "

You should...OS/2 was and is a lot of fun.

In it's day it was superior to the Windows of the time...actually ran Windoze programs *better* and more stable than under Windoze itself.

I still have my Warp v4.0 disks and a series of drivers such that I can run any of my modern machines on OS/2...NTFS, VFAT/FAT32...etc.

Too bad it wasn't developed further ...it was a pretty decent OpSys.

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[kohan69]

back on topic -_-

This is from a Soviet computer called:
"Электроника МС 0511" pronounced "Electronika MS 0511"

translated info


This keyboard is known as «Электроника МС 7007» and the internal ribbon connector is known as XS3, XS4

[InSanCen]

Maddox is still awesome... love the book signings.

[kohan69]

When I was growing up, we had a pirated spectrum home-made computer, looked something like:




you hooked it up to the TV, used a regular cassette recorder to read/write data, and we used 2 atari joysticks (serial) to play the games.

something liek this:


and the games were awesome:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZS5w4-sm8

it was basically a poor soviet boy's commadore64


PS: RIPSTER, REPLY TO YOUR PMS PLZ

[InSanCen]

I can assure you, despite never having typed on it, that the knock-off Spectrum feels vastly superior to the original rubber key abomination. I still think it's a contender for the worst keyboard ever.

[EverythingIBM]

..

"EveryThing International- BM" said this:
"I'm interested in trying OS/2 Warp though.. "

You should...OS/2 was and is a lot of fun.

In it's day it was superior to the Windows of the time...actually ran Windoze programs *better* and more stable than under Windoze itself.

I still have my Warp v4.0 disks and a series of drivers such that I can run any of my modern machines on OS/2...NTFS, VFAT/FAT32...etc.

Too bad it wasn't developed further ...it was a pretty decent OpSys.

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Spec_57
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NTFS?!? How much RAM can it support, what is the best processor it can support, can it run DOS & windows games?

If it's better than windows 98: count me in! I'm stuck in FAT32 lol.

[kishy]

FAT32, Windows 95?

Wasn't that FAT16?

kohan69 and prd: rest assured that the degree of offtopicness this thread has is in fact a sign that we appreciate your contributions. Generally, threads that stay on topic here involve bashing the topic at hand: welly with his amateur-grade keyboards, ripster with his iCrap, and so on.

[EverythingIBM]

FAT32, Windows 95?

Wasn't that FAT16?

I use windows 98 SE: it's FAT32.

Ah yes, back to the keyboards of Russia! Here is the keyboard ilya muromets used:

[prd]

Actually, it was this one (he wasn't much of a typist).

[ch_123]

OS/2's Windows compatibility was limited to Windows 3.11 as far as I know.

NTFS support, DOS support, some support for Windows games... Sounds like Linux to me!

[kishy]

NTFS support? It can't, that's illegal.

And so it should be.

[ch_123]

I think eComWorkstation (what OS/2 was called after it was sold by IBM) supports NTFS. Either way, maybe someone could get NTFS-3G working on it.

[kishy]

OS/2 is a funny exception, going back to how NTFS was spawned from HPFS (or the other way around, I dunno).

In any event anything in the OS/2 line should have it built in after HPFS was replaced with NTFS.

[ricercar]

IIRC, a 3rd party hack let me mount NTFS hard drives in Warp (OS/2 v4). In 96 or 97 I had a machine that booted Warp, Win95, DOS6 (With Win3), NT4, and some flavor of Linux (mainly because someone told me it could not be done).

[bitflipper]

IIRC, a 3rd party hack let me mount NTFS hard drives in Warp (OS/2 v4). In 96 or 97 I had a machine that booted Warp, Win95, DOS6 (With Win3), NT4, and some flavor of Linux (mainly because someone told me it could not be done).

OS/2 supposedly (cause I never saw it done) supported pluggable file systems. Just change a few lines in the config.sys. I remember a ZIPed compressed file system.

I think one of the things that caused OS/2 to die is that MS wrote much of the code including the HPFS file system and IBMs shortsightedness allowed MS to retain the IP rights to the code. Later on, when MS had developed Windows 3.1 and 95, it led to MS demanding huge royalty percentages which made OS/2 unprofitable for IBM.

I always though IBM should have bitten the bullet and re-written all the MS copyrighted/licensed software and continued with OS/2. Instead, they abandoned it.

[ricercar]

WARP died because it included the Windows 3.1 API sandbox but none for Win95. I doubt they'd have been able to buy the '95 API for any price in those days.

[bitflipper]

Any OS that depends on paying licensing fees for the Windows API is dead already. But you're right, it was around the success of Win95 that OS/2 was rendered useless to the public.

[ch_123]

OS/2 supposedly (cause I never saw it done) supported pluggable file systems. Just change a few lines in the config.sys. I remember a ZIPed compressed file system.

I think one of the things that caused OS/2 to die is that MS wrote much of the code including the HPFS file system and IBMs shortsightedness allowed MS to retain the IP rights to the code. Later on, when MS had developed Windows 3.1 and 95, it led to MS demanding huge royalty percentages which made OS/2 unprofitable for IBM.

I always though IBM should have bitten the bullet and re-written all the MS copyrighted/licensed software and continued with OS/2. Instead, they abandoned it.

I think the rise of Linux in the enterprise market probably killed it too.