Best switch type for someone who likes bottoming out?

[Cedific]

I just love really pushing that key down hard like it has dishonored my family and must pay. Am considering heavy clickies (like BOX navies) but I wanted to get some input from more experienced users before I buy. Relating to this - are there any mechanical switches where the actuation point is lower than the middle?

[Techno Trousers]

IBM Model F has a low actuation point. That long travel and force build up followed by a satisfying click and tactility drop-off is my favorite sensation for typing.

[lolafineday]

Tactile will inevitably make you bottom out, clickies will too but I'm not a fan of the sound and feel of clickies. I've been enjoying holy pandas a lot recently, just need to get rid of factory lube and lube yourself.

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[Sintpinty]

I just love really pushing that key down hard like it has dishonored my family and must pay. Am considering heavy clickies (like BOX navies) but I wanted to get some input from more experienced users before I buy. Relating to this - are there any mechanical switches where the actuation point is lower than the middle?

Would reccomend either low profile switches, Gateron Clears, Topre 35-50 g, and cherry mx red(silent or regular, doesn't matter)

[fohat.digs]

Tactile will inevitably make you bottom out,

I feel the opposite way, that tactile and clicky switches exist to give notice that actuation has been achieved, so no need for a touch typist to bottom out.

My son uses Cherry black with O-rings for gaming, that might be the best combination for you in that force is required but cushioning is there to soften the blow.

[_haru]

A smooth linear (Gateron, Retooled Cherry, etc) with an MX Clear spring, thick caps, and a steel or brass plate. Very satisfying.

[rajendra82]

Box Jades do not actuate low, but their force curve has a peak near the top, so after you push past it, it becomes difficult to stop until you bottom out. I would equate pressing each key to pressing on the cap of a ball point pen. The key just wants to fall to the bottom after it clicks.

[Polymer]

Tactile will inevitably make you bottom out,

I feel the opposite way, that tactile and clicky switches exist to give notice that actuation has been achieved, so no need for a touch typist to bottom out.

There's not need to bottom out anyways..but the drop off in force after the bump lends itself to bottoming out...of course this will depend on the force curve...

Realistically, if you're not bottoming out, you're giving up speed.  I don't mean to say you need to hammer the key down but bottoming out itself generally means you're hitting the key as fast as you can.   

IMO, the best middle ground is to type as fast as you can but try not to slam the keys...that will lead to lightly bottoming out, some heavier bottom outs and some no bottom outs..but to me this is because of the actuation point more than anything else...

So much information has been perpetuated over the years such as a tactile point tells you when to stop so you don't bottom out..but that is a complete fallacy..

[chyros]

Get a really crisp, light linear. This'll allow you to fully savour the bottom-out feel.

[Cedific]

A lot of people recommending light linears. As I have a board with Gateron Reds, I have had the opportunity to test them out to my typing style and they do feel great, but they present a small problem for a neanderthal typist like me: they are so light and actuate so soon that I have to consiously be very accurate or I mistype a lot. Bottoming out does feel good and I am able to type pretty fast, but with more mistakes. From your recommendations I am considering perhaps a heavier linear or a tactile like a Holy Panda, rather then a heavy clicky (who am I kidding, I'll probably eventually get everything anyway).

Get a really crisp, light linear. This'll allow you to fully savour the bottom-out feel.

Would you mind expanding on what you mean by "crisp"?

[Sintpinty]

Tactile will inevitably make you bottom out,

I feel the opposite way, that tactile and clicky switches exist to give notice that actuation has been achieved, so no need for a touch typist to bottom out.

My son uses Cherry black with O-rings for gaming, that might be the best combination for you in that force is required but cushioning is there to soften the blow.

I don't like cherry black at all. Personally it feels just too stiff.
Cherry mx green is #goodfeels, but i get really tired when bottoming out 😰

[Kavik]

Isn't it possible to set the actuation distance lower on the Wooting One? If so, I'd imagine you can set it to the bottom or pretty close of the key travel.

[equalunique]

Tactile will inevitably make you bottom out,

I feel the opposite way, that tactile and clicky switches exist to give notice that actuation has been achieved, so no need for a touch typist to bottom out.

There's not need to bottom out anyways..but the drop off in force after the bump lends itself to bottoming out...of course this will depend on the force curve...

Realistically, if you're not bottoming out, you're giving up speed.  I don't mean to say you need to hammer the key down but bottoming out itself generally means you're hitting the key as fast as you can.   

IMO, the best middle ground is to type as fast as you can but try not to slam the keys...that will lead to lightly bottoming out, some heavier bottom outs and some no bottom outs..but to me this is because of the actuation point more than anything else...

So much information has been perpetuated over the years such as a tactile point tells you when to stop so you don't bottom out..but that is a complete fallacy..

The actuation point is 2.0mm for most Cherry derivatives, and somewhere between 1.4mm and 1.0mm for "speed" varieties. Bottoming out means you move your fingers the full *4.0mm for most Cherry MX switch clones. You are arguably spending twice the time & force you need to spend if you are bottoming out, and therefore it *cannot* be faster. (Ok, that's the end of my rant)

*Exceptions are 3.6mm for most Kailh MX clones & Box switches; 3.5mm for Matias; 3.2mm for Cherry MX Speed Silver; and 3mm for Kailh Choc Low Profile.

If that's your style, then switches with a short travel might be the best choice for you. Cherry MX Speed Silver, Kailh Speed, Kailh Pro, and Kailh Choc would be IMO the way to go. Matias switches might also be a good choice, because their actuation point is about 2/3 the way down.