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Offline BenBenMan

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Strange issues with a Unicomp Customizer.
« on: Tue, 06 July 2010, 04:18:03 »
Hi Guys...
I've had a Unicomp Customizer for about a year now (you might remember me asking here for advice back then :P ) and it's been great ... until now. I'm having some strange issues with the space bar.

Occasionally, when I start up my machine, the space bar doesn't register unless I hit it with significantly more force than normal. If I remove and reseat it, nothing changes. However, after a while, it just starts working .. but sometimes it will register as if I hit a few spaces. Then it eventually starts working properly.  I guess this suggests there's something dodgy happening in the controller, or maybe the PCB, but I'm not sure...

I thought it could have been a USB power issue, but I've tried it on two different machines (a laptop and a desktop) and it happens on both.

Anyone had similar issues with Customizers? Or am I just imagining this whole thing?
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« Reply #1 on: Tue, 06 July 2010, 04:36:47 »
Sounds like it could be an issue with the membrane... I'd ring up Unicomp and get it fixed.

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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 06 July 2010, 10:45:51 »
Or perhaps could be a physical thing like something moving over time internally and partially blocking the key, a bit of potato chip.  Might be able to dislodge a bit of food if that is the issue by turning it upside down and banging it on the side and/or vacuuming it out.  Or not, just another possibility.

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 06 July 2010, 11:27:11 »
Also take a look and see if there's anything wrong with the spring mechanism. They're pretty easy to rebuild. Just use a sharpened pencil to pick up the spring, and maybe blow it out to get anything in there out.
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physical problems, likely.
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 06 July 2010, 11:36:32 »
yup - a flaky connection, but I would totally suspect the mechanics before the electronics:

Before opening it up:
1) remove the space, and dig around the whole area it wants to be with a smaller paintbrush, I use 1", normally for keyboard 'dusting'. This should sort out and/or allow you to detect any problem with the bar's actual movement.
2) look down the two shafts the keyboard rides in - one will have a spring and hammer at the bottom, the other will likely just have a nylon spacer to help the spacebar stay aligned. If you see anything in there, shake it out. If you have compressed or canned air, give it a moderate pressure couple of spurts to hopefully dislodge any cruft getting in the way of the hammer at the bottom. temporarily replace the spacebar with an ordinary key, this way to can check to see whether you successfully cleared out the problem, try again, etc.. a flashlight might help, and *gentle* poking at the spring to activate the hammer will both be fun and enlightening. Be careful you don't bend or pull out the spring, mind as fixing it is a black art.

AT this point yer keyboard is likely working. If not, in order to open and clean the membranes fully, a bolt-mod is likely needed. If you love your particular keyboard, then go for it - else consider switching out the tray with one from a used Model M of some sort... OK - someone else will need to tell you _which_ 90s Model M is compatible with the customizer, as I have neither a customizer nor any of the Lexmark 101/105s that the customizer is based on.

Alternatively, as pointed out above,  getting a quote from Unicomp to service the board would totally be in order at this point. If you are still under warranty, you may not want to even bother opening it up with a 5.5mm or 7/32 long, thin socket.

  (Oh, and to confirm the customizer has neither a nipple nor a trackball/pad, correct? - if it does, then replacing with an old board is not going to work. Finally, the old boards are almost all PS2, so to keep USB you are looking at service from unicomp)
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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 06 July 2010, 11:38:46 »
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Also take a look and see if there's anything wrong with the spring mechanism. They're pretty easy to rebuild. Just use a sharpened pencil to pick up the spring, and maybe blow it out to get anything in there out.

hmm - I must try this spring removal/replacement from the top. I've had little luck with it, so stopped trying as I do a fast bolt-mod these days. :)
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Offline BenBenMan

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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 11 July 2010, 07:04:05 »
Thanks for the advice guys ... I gave it a good whack and that seems to have fixed it, so I guess there was just some bit of food or something lodged in there. Meh, all good now. :)
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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 11 July 2010, 11:12:58 »
Giving the technology a whack is always a good first step. Half the time it'll fix whatever's wrong.
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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 11 July 2010, 11:57:59 »
Quote from: microsoft windows;199972
Also take a look and see if there's anything wrong with the spring mechanism. They're pretty easy to rebuild. Just use a sharpened pencil to pick up the spring, and maybe blow it out to get anything in there out.


Usually you can tell that there's something wrong with the spring mechanism because it feels odd... When I got my Model F, the one for the Y key was loose or something and it wouldn't always click properly. Dismantling the keyboard fixed that.