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Offline EMC Labs

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Community Survey
« on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 05:33:19 »
Hi everyone,

Survey: https://forms.gle/rot3RRgokcND2TD57

It would be greatly appreciated if you could fill out this community survey for a research report I am writing. I will subsequently provide the report (if you want) when it is finished so you can see the data. It should take you around 2 minutes to complete.

Cheers  :thumb:

Update:

The survey is complete! And I've compiled the data and created some graphs so it's easier to visualise. You can see it below.

Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gi2huTUo2SQnq1Pb9pI07l_ZbUVqGZ2HAKqZD7UXL00/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to everyone who helped by submitting a response. Whether or not you find this information useful, hopefully it is interesting to look at.

The data is free to use. If you have trouble copying the data, message me your email so I can send across the excel spreadsheet.
« Last Edit: Fri, 09 October 2020, 05:52:01 by EMC Labs »

Offline Leslieann

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 06:56:21 »
You left out typing feel for influence.
Gasket mount is not mounting type by itself (including a friction fit), it's usually a modification or other types of mounts. For example you can have top mount with a gasket or without, bottom mount with a gasket or without, etc..

And you have weight listed twice in importance.
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Offline EMC Labs

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 07:14:27 »
You left out typing feel for influence.
Gasket mount is not mounting type by itself (including a friction fit), it's usually a modification or other types of mounts. For example you can have top mount with a gasket or without, bottom mount with a gasket or without, etc..

And you have weight listed twice in importance.

I added in typing feel.

I understand what you're saying with gasket mount, however, I didn't want to get too specific.

Also, the first weight option refers to the additional material piece added into the case while the second weight option refers to how heavy the actual keyboard is.

Hope this cleared some things up.

Offline Leslieann

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 07:38:23 »
I understand that but what info do you glean from "gasket mount" if it applies to all?
Sure it tells you like they like gasket mount but tells you nothing about the mounting style they prefer. You're corrupting your own data.

A better option would be mounting style then a second if they prefer gasket mount or hard mount.
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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 18:52:13 »
I understand that but what info do you glean from "gasket mount" if it applies to all?
Sure it tells you like they like gasket mount but tells you nothing about the mounting style they prefer. You're corrupting your own data.

A better option would be mounting style then a second if they prefer gasket mount or hard mount.

Yes, you're right. But I just tried to keep it as general as possible to respect the respondents time and retain attention. If the respondent chooses the gasket mount option, I'm taking it they like gasket regardless of whether it is top or bottom mount.

During my evaluation, I'll definitely keep your point in mind.
« Last Edit: Mon, 05 October 2020, 18:54:22 by EMC Labs »

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 20:10:49 »
BTW. EM7, Alice and the like are not considered "ergonomic" by many people who are a bit deeper into ergonomic mechanical keyboards.
The main arguments are that they are not truly split and not tented, but still typewriter-staggered.

Therefore, I would not use it as an example of an "ergonomic" keyboard.
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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 21:03:44 »
> Rank these in order of your importance (where 1 is the most important and 5 is the least important).

Wasn't sure about this one- four of the 5 options were equally 100% unimportant to me, so I ranked them all at 5, and the single factor of any value was ranked 1.

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 21:24:28 »

> Rank these in order of your importance

Wasn't sure about this one


I hear you.

Key feel is all that matters and noise is a negative. Attributes like weighting and switch mounting are trivial at most.
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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 00:21:34 »
BTW. EM7, Alice and the like are not considered "ergonomic" by many people who are a bit deeper into ergonomic mechanical keyboards.
The main arguments are that they are not truly split and not tented, but still typewriter-staggered.

Therefore, I would not use it as an example of an "ergonomic" keyboard.

Yeh, someone else had mentioned that as well. I removed it.

Out of curiosity, what would you classify the Alice as?
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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 08:05:50 »
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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 20:47:11 »
Out of curiosity, what would you classify the Alice as?

'Fashionable' :)

I asked about the Alice design several months ago in a thread under the ergo forum. Pretty much anyone who answered said that the design was more about the appearance than any ergonomic benefit.

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 22:57:58 »
Out of curiosity, what would you classify the Alice as?

'Fashionable' :)

I asked about the Alice design several months ago in a thread under the ergo forum. Pretty much anyone who answered said that the design was more about the appearance than any ergonomic benefit.

I see. Thanks for letting me know.

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Re: Community Survey
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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 07 October 2020, 16:02:52 »
What's the verdict so far?  :D

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 07 October 2020, 23:25:56 »
What's the verdict so far?  :D

Reached the target sample size today (ended up reaching 111 respondents), and will start to compile it into excel. Once I've finished, I'll open a Google Sheets so you guys can have a look.

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 08:10:43 »
Let the chaos begin!  :))

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 05:40:02 »
Updated original post  :thumb:

You can see the summary of the data here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gi2huTUo2SQnq1Pb9pI07l_ZbUVqGZ2HAKqZD7UXL00/edit?usp=sharing

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 05:58:17 »
Two thirds said that current kits are too expensive, yet roughly the same say they want cases made out of aluminium or brass(!)?  :D

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Re: Community Survey
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 10:53:07 »
I mean in some cases they are, but I do understand the labor and process involved for making them, which of course is an added cost - gotta pay for the labor time involved.   I think it's more the re-sellers are gouging prices on common kits is what gets me the most.

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