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Offline LuNaBlackCherry

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« on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 16:08:19 »
What !!!
I have a Black Cherry MX from Filco and all suddenly i figure out that i cant Press P the down from P button ...the Question mark button and the MINUS from numPad ...

To write that Post i made coPy Paste the P button from a word i found here in forum...

Is that Possible to all those buttons to fail same time
is that maybe a drivers Problem
can u suggest me a drivers to download or drive me to any solution if its Possible ofc ....

This is my first Post btw ...Cheers from Greece
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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 16:10:56 »
Umm, could you list exact combination bit clearer please?
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Offline LuNaBlackCherry

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 16:18:22 »
Keys with problem you mean or no ...
if yes so here we go

p Button + the next one not working From 1st Row
From L button the next 2 buttons not working also From 2nd Row
and Question mark Button  not workin From 3rd Row

From numpad section the MINUS button not working...

Windows Driver = 6.1.7600.16385 ...
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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 16:32:42 »
You got layout right? There shouldn't be any problems with 2 keys or atleast my hands can't do those all at same time ;D
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Offline LuNaBlackCherry

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 16:37:22 »
What you mean
im telling that those buttons not function at all ... i cant write words with letter  p
or ask questions cause i cant type the question mark ... Keyboard is not working...

What u mean    u got layout ...
Sorry my english are not good
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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 16:42:57 »
Does your keyboard look like this:

Or like this:


And I mean the shape of keycaps...
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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 16:53:55 »
according symbols etc @ numbers ...its closer to 1st layout...
but on second layout u post the ALT GR button is more accurate
but on second layout i dont have euro symbol on E ... not even greek letters on my keyb...only english


ps... now i see better...there is not button up from enter...so its like 2nd layout for sure..WITH ALT GRE button correct...but no greek letters..only English
« Last Edit: Sat, 11 September 2010, 16:58:03 by LuNaBlackCherry »
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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 17:07:07 »
Quote from: LuNaBlackCherry;222108
according symbols etc @ numbers ...its closer to 1st layout...
but on second layout u post the ALT GR button is more accurate
but on second layout i dont have euro symbol on E ... not even greek letters on my keyb...only english


ps... now i see better...there is not button up from enter...so its like 2nd layout for sure..WITH ALT GRE button correct...but no greek letters..only English


So basicly it's 105-KEY keyboard. Don't realy know, but if you are using English as input method you shoul use UK/Great Britain English not US... Can't help much further...
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Offline LuNaBlackCherry

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 17:09:48 »
The keyb working like charm with the settings i have already now... suddenly those buttons i told u stop respond...
Thats the problem

Back side of keyb says FKBN105ML UKB
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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 17:15:57 »
Quote from: LuNaBlackCherry;222117
The keyb working like charm with the settings i have already now... suddenly those buttons i told u stop respond...
Thats the problem

Probaly not issue with wrong layout as my test on my new Filco Brown didn't suggest anything like it.

I would say it's broken, the wire/wires resposible for those keys in matrix likely is cut-off. If you haven't caused extensive damage on it by any forcefull means I think you should RMA it, atleast contact the retailler and ask their option.

Also, if you haven't check your connections, atleast my adapter isn't the best fit...
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Offline LuNaBlackCherry

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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 17:21:39 »
Tried USB and other also ...
Tried to other comPuter also ..no luck...
i bought it direct from filco ...should i contact them
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Offline Ekaros

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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 17:28:19 »
Quote from: LuNaBlackCherry;222123
Tried USB and other also ...
Tried to other comPuter also ..no luck...
i bought it direct from filco ...should i contact them


If it doesn't work in other computer or with just USB then it is broken. Just contact them and ask how they want to go on replacement. Even higher quality products can go wrong...

BTW how old is it?
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Offline LuNaBlackCherry

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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 17:49:11 »
not even 5-6 months...
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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 20:45:35 »
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Offline LuNaBlackCherry

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 11 September 2010, 21:26:14 »
i connect it to my 2nd comuter next to this one ...same buttons not working...i will try the aquakeytest u telling me ...
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9236/keyboardp.jpg
here the test
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Offline LuNaBlackCherry

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 12 September 2010, 05:27:27 »
Liquid 100% no...
About banging... dont remember for sure
I send them an email on support ... lets see the answer
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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 12 September 2010, 06:52:46 »
There are no replacement for those keys
if there are can u suggest me a site to look ... its easy to replace it on my own

sorry broken questionmark sucks
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Offline Ekaros

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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 12 September 2010, 07:59:01 »
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There are no replacement for those keys
if there are can u suggest me a site to look ... its easy to replace it on my own

sorry broken questionmark sucks


There is likely no easy way to fix it if a trace is broken... Problem isn't likely with individual switches or keys but on board which they are connected to...
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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 12 September 2010, 08:05:24 »
we are sure thats the Problem ?
there is no way that switches got the Problem ?

is there anything i cant do from my side to fix it ?
excePt a rma etc
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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 12 September 2010, 08:58:16 »
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we are sure thats the Problem ?
there is no way that switches got the Problem ?

is there anything i cant do from my side to fix it ?
excePt a rma etc


If there was just a one switch not working then it might, but not with multiple. Also as it is very likely in hardware, touching it or messing with it might lead to violation of warranty, which would remove possibility of RMA.
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« Reply #20 on: Mon, 13 September 2010, 12:29:32 »
Anyway...lets start searching for my new GAMING Keyboard...
Suggestions !!! Please

Or link me any exist Post about that question that have been uP already !!
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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 13 September 2010, 13:04:14 »
ahahah thnx ... any quick info about all those posts...
any conclusion so far
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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 13 September 2010, 14:30:58 »
link for the OCN thread you can give me please..
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