Recommended Keyboard for fastest accurate double / triple tap (Tetris)

[Lanx]

stick brings with it old school memories and prolly staying true to the arcade of stick only. Altho there are mods out there that let ps3/360 fps ppl play with a mouse, imagine the pwn. (which is why cod cannot have 360/pc match matching the best 360 player would loose to the most average pc player).

[Crypt]

And all non stick sf players are ass quote me for truth <3

Cept for Vangief!  If you don't know him, he's a new top tier SF4 player that competes on a pad.

[RoboKrikit]

And all non stick sf players are ass quote me for truth <3

More SF players in the house.  Stick and 6-button for me plz.  8-button is ****.

Cept for Vangief!  If you don't know him, he's a new top tier SF4 player that competes on a pad.

Victheslik is actually a pretty well-known player in SF including SF4.

[symphonic1985]

If you're looking for tips on building with Sanwa parts, then consider having a look at the Shoryuken forums. When you buy your buttons, you should also probably pickup Seimitsu ones for comparison - they are springier and slightly more forceful (still <<< most keyboards) than Sanwa.

And just to chime in on non-stick SF  - aren't players like Shizza, Alioune, Luffy, Snake Eyes starting to turn the tide? I'd also think that, theoretically, 1 movement button per finger is a better solution.

[victheslik]

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[symphonic1985]

@vic

I few months ago I decided that I wanted to learn SF4 and put a lot of thought into pad v stick etc. I always played sf with pad from my younger days on the Saturn, and all my attempts to switch failed. To convince myself that stick was worth it I starting practicing and measuring min input time for various moves on pad vs stick (in frames). It's true that I got lowest with the stick for 2xQCF, SRK etc., but only by a smaller amount. Actually my right hand was the best.

I'm curious to try this again with buttons as a comparison... In the end I couldn't convince my friends to play SF, so it was academic anyway!

[RoboKrikit]

Many people prefer the look of seimitsu buttons due to the fact that you can put art under the actual button, however if you prefer the look of seimitsu, but like the feel of sanwa's you could replace the spring (just like cherries) and have the look and feel (surface) but the force of a sanwa (and you can light it up ....)

This works pretty well with 'small-switch' Seimitsus since you can just swap in the SW-68 Sanwa switches (snap out, snap in, no tools), but most of the stuff they're making now uses the large switches (2nd from right).



My favorite swap is large-switch Seimitsu for the Sanwa G1 switch from the Sanwa RG buttons.  It raises up the plunger a little bit, but the feel is pretty cool.  You can barely hear it in play, but this is a clicky switch.  They're about 5 bucks a pop though for the switch alone.

@Robokrikit- ~ <3, Sadly I don't really play thhaaaat much anymore, however... half of the videos are all misplaced on youtube due to random spelling as Victheslik, Victheslick, Vic the slick , and son and so forth.... however if you are bored and wanna see some third strike (SCR-SoCal Regionals) I did peace out Sako in losers (read: scrubbed out) xD~ however for finals the next day Fathers birthday (family first) so I was obligated to let others players get ahead ~

Haha, nice job vs Sako.  I missed SCR but saw most of NCR the other weekend.

I played the most during WW, CE, HF days out in VA, but I still love SF and get in some playtime when I can.  Buktooth's crib is nearby and I've been over there a couple times, and I've been teaching my younger brothers (<= 18yo) to play.

[bakageta]

I actually picked up snap-in seimitsu pearl buttons because they still used the smaller switches, and swapped them to sanwa switches. The sanwa switches are a super light linear switch, while the seimitsu's are slightly heavier and tactile. I'd say get both to try them out, but I personally prefer sanwa's feel.

I'd check LizardLick or AkihabaraShop for the buttons themselves. I've ordered from both, and never had any problems.

[Lanx]

you stick modding guys should apply your skills to keyboard modding!

[victheslik]

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[RoboKrikit]

I actually picked up snap-in seimitsu pearl buttons because they still used the smaller switches, and swapped them to sanwa switches. The sanwa switches are a super light linear switch, while the seimitsu's are slightly heavier and tactile. I'd say get both to try them out, but I personally prefer sanwa's feel.

I'd check LizardLick or AkihabaraShop for the buttons themselves. I've ordered from both, and never had any problems.

I wouldn't call Seimitsus tactile; they are pretty much identical to Sanwas with a slightly stiffer spring.  Even the Sanwa RGs with their (quiet) clicky microswitch don't really have a tactile feel.  If you want tactile you need to go with American parts or these Sanwas w/Omrons:



I wouldn't, though.

@Robokrikit - I forgot to mention I noticed your stick collection earlier, nice . However I really detest the new Hori due to the placement of the start button.... With that being said I actually never went to any NCR kind of too lazy to go... however with that being said keep your eye out for West Coast Warzone 3 , if things go according to plan then watch out for "Team No Skill" Victheslik, Mr. KOF, Kai (or) Clakey D (or that may change along the road as well.

Yeah, the new Horis look nice, but the Start placement is pretty stupid, especially after getting such a nice example from MarkMan on how to design a tournament stick.  I moved mine to the sides using some really stiff generic pushbuttons.  The 24mm Sanwas are nice but you don't really need that kind of sensitivity on your "disqualify me now" button.



Good luck at WCW3!

[CodeChef]

any idea on where to find a Cthulu board? I can deal with the components myself, I just want the board (or at least a kit or something, anything but the assembled board!)

[RoboKrikit]

any idea on where to find a Cthulu board? I can deal with the components myself, I just want the board (or at least a kit or something, anything but the assembled board!)

Toodles doesn't sell the kits anymore.  Unless you can find someone who bought one a couple years ago and didn't use it I think you are out of luck.

[bakageta]

I wouldn't call Seimitsus tactile; they are pretty much identical to Sanwas with a slightly stiffer spring.  Even the Sanwa RGs with their (quiet) clicky microswitch don't really have a tactile feel.  If you want tactile you need to go with American parts or these Sanwas w/Omrons:

All of my Seimitsu buttons feel tactile, though they're not clicky and it's a VERY light bump very close to the top of the travel... If you press it with any real force you won't notice, but it does make resting your fingers on the buttons less likely to accidentally press one. Granted, I haven't used any of the newer large Seimitsu switches, just the older ones that are a direct swap for Sanwa switches, but I'm told the new ones feel the same.

[CodeChef]

So, if I wanted to make my own arcade stick then (for SF) how would I do about that?

[RoboKrikit]

The most comprehensive reference is Slagcoin's site.  I would start there and use the SRK Tech Talk forums for research and questions.  Also helpful are the arcadecontrols.com guys, though they tend to focus more on building cabinets in my experience.

For fast service on parts in the US, I like LizardLick, and for harder to find parts or parts in bulk (prices are lower but shipping from Japan is slower) I order from Akihabarashop.

[CodeChef]

Thanks! Oh man this is going to be FUN