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Offline Brian8bit

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« on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 13:56:57 »
I browse OTD.kr mostly to browse the album (I can't read a bit of Korean) and notice that you're both quite active over there and was wondering if you could give me some information on this keyboard that was in the album section.
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 14:19:51 »
Those are blue alps switches. That is an awesome keyboard.
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Offline calavera

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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 14:50:41 »
this was a test build for sh!ts and giggles.
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Offline Brian8bit

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 15:01:14 »
Quote from: ripster;282491
Looks like a 356CL build.


That's what I thought, minus the arrow keys and delete/end/pg buttons etcetera. So what would the PCB be? Just a hacked 356CL one with the arrow key bit lopped off?
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Offline msiegel

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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 15:02:38 »
i love the plastic construction... is it all acrylic?
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Offline msiegel

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 15:04:34 »
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gold plated connectors


you know why ;)
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Offline Brian8bit

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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 15:08:00 »
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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 21 January 2011, 16:57:04 »
Quote from: ripster;282503
I'm still trying to figure out why the guy braided and used gold plated PS/2 connectors on a keypad.  Seems a bit OCN.

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Offline sixty

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 10:42:41 »
Somehow missed this thread.

Anyway the board is an AHMX, modded to fit ALPS switches. The guy says he modified the PCB drawings and had the PCB made to fit ALPS. The drawings for these PCBs are available in CAD format on OTD so its pretty easy to modify and change stuff around.

Original MX version looks like this:


Quote from: ripster
I'm still trying to figure out why the guy braided and used gold plated PS/2 connectors on a keypad. Seems a bit OCD.

That keypad costs $300, so may as well go all out.
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Offline sixty

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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 10:50:36 »
There is also the viki_hhmx, which is very nice:





Probably the smallest MX switch board in existence. Even the height is minimal due to spherical keycaps and absolutely no bezel.
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 11:49:37 »
OK, sixty, that board is awesome. Is it programmable at all?

And any idea where to go to order such a thing? It looks like a kit, if I'm not mistaken.
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Offline FrittenFett

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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 11:50:06 »
Allmighty asians.
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Offline FrittenFett

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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 11:55:29 »
We will only find the 2nd kid of every chinese.
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Offline sixty

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 11:57:28 »
Quote from: theferenc;282880
OK, sixty, that board is awesome. Is it programmable at all?

And any idea where to go to order such a thing? It looks like a kit, if I'm not mistaken.

I think it has the Aikon controller build into the PCB directly, so its fully programmable on the fly.

As far as I know the viki_hhmx variant was entirely made from scratch by a single guy and was not available for sale. The other HHMX was available as a kit.. they are more common with acrylic cases.

However, nothing is readily available and if you plan on building one you would have to find a company to laser cut the case and have the PCB made... not a cheap task.

I tried to make one of their HHMXs, but their PCB design uses 4 layers, which results in very expensive PCBs, even when ordering 5+. As for the case, I could not find ANYTHING affordable (and by affordable I mean < 200 Euro) in Europe to laser cut acryl from CAD files. I know it is much cheaper in Korea though.
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Offline gilgam

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 16:30:43 »
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There is also the viki_hhmx, which is very nice:

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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 17:08:37 »
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Me too!

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Offline Brian8bit

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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 17:09:38 »
/g/, /g/, /g/, /g/, baby baby baby
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Offline gilgam

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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 17:14:29 »
i think i can do both

i have a small korean shop nearby with a young lady
Maybe she can help me for the website ...

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Offline calavera

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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 19:22:19 »
Well, the only thing that prevents me from building my own keyboard is the PCB. Getting a controller chip and all that stuff is beyond me. I could laser cut acrylic and make a case but that's the extent of my expertise. I could also rapid prototype a case but that can cost up to a grand. lol

So I came to the conclusion that the only way to build one is to buy a kit once it's supposed to be available later this year from my fellow Koreans.
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Offline msiegel

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 19:41:50 »
we geekhackers have so many skills... i wonder if we could team up somehow, to produce each other's dream keyboards?
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Offline roadblock2thesun

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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 20:05:37 »
has anyone spent anytime on www.ponoko.com? They have lots of materials that you can have stuff laser cut out from, and just started offering 3d printing services. I want to look into making something like the acryllic cases that the otd guys are using, but haven't had the time.
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Offline Brian8bit

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 22 January 2011, 20:11:19 »
Sounds like a Ghibli film.
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Offline Laggy-gaga

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 23 January 2011, 07:09:16 »
I hardly browse OTD, looks like my ISP blocks OTD~~
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Offline Findecanor

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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 23 January 2011, 08:37:04 »
Within Ponoko, the only laser-cutting material besides cardboard that you can get in 1.5 mm thickness suitable for Cherry switches is clear PETG -- the type of plastic that plastic bottles are made of.
It might be durable enough together with a PCB, but not without one.
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Offline roadblock2thesun

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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 23 January 2011, 19:14:29 »
If anyone comes across the pcb schematic used for that hhmx board can you post it here? I have been looking since yesterday with no luck since I dont speek korean and google tanslate sux.
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Offline RiGS

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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 24 January 2011, 15:29:50 »
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Probably the smallest MX switch board in existence. Even the height is minimal due to spherical keycaps and absolutely no bezel.


Where can I get those low profile spherical keycaps? I desperately need such a spacebar for my mod.
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