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Offline vicariouscheese

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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 25 September 2010, 06:11:00 »
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Non-gaming? Are you serious? You DO know that you take your own computer with you to LANs right? So this onboard setting bull**** is useless? Unless you want to install Counter-Strike on your grandmother's computer which for some reason cannot handle Steelseries drivers and play with your Xai.

How on earth is the G500 not a good gaming mouse? It has one of the best sensors on the market and the right and left click work. That's all you need to be a good gaming mouse.


generally, the bigger the lan, the less likely its byoc.  and when its not byoc, youre not allowed to install anything, so thats why some people want native 1000hz polling or on board dpi settings

also, top players dont think the g500 is a good gaming mouse because the sensor has acceleration issues.  i dont like it because i dont like the weights, and without the weights the center of gravity is up front, plus i like having the sensor be in the middle- this makes a huge difference for low sens/palm users.  dont know if it has prediction, but the mx518 does (and is a widely used mouse) so thats not too much of an issue, more of preference.
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« Reply #51 on: Sat, 25 September 2010, 20:03:39 »
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You need to up the DPI, you probably set it too low compared to your screen resolution and it's not reading enough. Should also remove the acceleration if you have it on. And untick use native OS drivers for pointer speed and acceleration. That way it runs off the logitech software and change the speed to 5 and acceleration to 0. 5 = 1:1 movement or 6/11 on windows.

The jitter movement probably means angle snapping is off. So either your previous mouse had mouse correction by default(it draws straight lines in place of following your hand movements).


Thanks for the response.

I've been using 3000 dpi, since I have a small desk and movement is really limited, so I was pretty sure it wasn't that.

I've also had mouse acceleration off since day one since I absolutely hate it for any application, gaming or not. That one was a natch.

However, I'd always overlooked the angle snap option because I was never really sure what it did. So I turned it on, and lo and behold, no more jitters. That seemed to do the trick. Now I can use the mouse without the weights, which makes me really happy. Thanks for the suggestions!
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« Reply #52 on: Sat, 25 September 2010, 22:11:11 »
Yeah I thought it was that, some are more sensitive to their mouse than others.

Basically every 5-10 degrees of deviation it'll straighten out your path. It's nice for fine straight lines like an editor or something to that nature. But it's just additional layer of interpolation, when using the mouse and wanting the most correlation to direct feedback of action.

Something else you want to do is keep the polling rate at 500Hz, since it's more consistent. 1000Hz fluctuates a lot between 600-900.
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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 26 September 2010, 22:54:36 »
it is great for my general usage and programing. i don't game at all. as a gaming mouse i hear it has shortcomings. i wanted to clarify what i am using it for and it works very well for that.
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Offline Moogle Stiltzkin

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« Reply #54 on: Mon, 13 December 2010, 04:36:51 »
This is my settings in the SetPoint software.


Pointer settings

acceleration to 0

disable native OS drivers

speed set to 5

acceleration set to 0

disable angle snapping

poll rate set to 500


Number of dpi levels you can have any number from 1 to 5. I use 3 settings although you could set to 5 settings and that would be fine as well.

the x and y axis will have bar selectors depending on how many dpi level options you selected. Anyway since i used 3; i only configured the 3 DPI levels as 800/1200/1600
so both x and y would be say e.g. 800 etc.




scrolling settings

vertical 1

horizontal 7





Some people had some interesting things to say comparing the Mx518 sensor vs the G500
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/G-series-Gaming-Mice/I-need-help-updating-g500-firmware/m-p/404068



But still i like the G500 for the overall build. The sensor settings is highly adjustable and most likely i will in time find the gspot for my mouse handling.
« Last Edit: Mon, 13 December 2010, 04:42:36 by Moogle Stiltzkin »
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« Reply #55 on: Sat, 18 December 2010, 05:14:26 »
there is a majer issue with the g500! some poeple may have this happen to them.

the g500 pulls more current from the usb bus than the specification allowes.

many machines will tolarate this fine. especially newer ones tend to have ramped up usb specs.

on machines that cannot tolerate it a number of bad issues can occur. from power saving not working to complete unstability.

if you have a g500 and have been pulling out your hair wondering why your machine is not stable. i'd look at the g500.

this can be solved on machines that have an issue by either unplugging all other usb devices from that channel on the mobo(ports that are next to each other). or by getting a powered usb hub.

it is no wonder this thing draws so much current. it is one hefty mouse.

of course logitechs east indian tech support does not know this but i do.

also if you are just using the mouse for general duty i would forgo setpoint alltogether. just save your profile and uninstall setpoint.

anyways, quriks aside i love this mouse!
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Offline BlueRain

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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 24 December 2010, 01:57:08 »
Just curious what people use for their DPI settings. I'm trying to experiment with the x- and y- axis separately. Currently using 4800:2700 (16:9).
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« Reply #57 on: Fri, 24 December 2010, 06:40:25 »
i never tried that. like i said mine was set on 2400 for both and i did not even know it. i think something might be wrong with mine because i can actually use 5700.

i'd burn the rom and uninstall setpoint unless you need macros.
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Offline BlueRain

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« Reply #58 on: Fri, 24 December 2010, 15:11:20 »
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i never tried that. like i said mine was set on 2400 for both and i did not even know it. i think something might be wrong with mine because i can actually use 5700.

i'd burn the rom and uninstall setpoint unless you need macros.


Wouldn't that mess up the polling rate which is configured via SetPoint?
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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 24 December 2010, 18:39:13 »
nope. without setpoint the default on this mouse is 1000. or set it to 1000 in setpoint and then uninstall it. the reg key will remain. try this page

http://www.ngohq.com/news/15043-how-to-increase-usb-sample-rate-in-windows-vista-7-a.html

setpoint is a huge resource hog and has some bugs. especially with the g500. the newer setpoint is not compatable with the g500 and automatically downgrades on installation. if you are gaming you might want it though. you cannot reconfigure the buttons without it. i may write something smaller to reconfigure the buttons but i doubt logitech will let me distribute it.
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« Reply #60 on: Sat, 25 December 2010, 18:45:24 »
forgot to mention. the higher the polling rate the more cpu cycles it uses. not a problem with modern 4 or 8 core cpus unless you are taxing the poop out of them with a game. which is exactly what the g500 is for. so one really needs to find a balance of all the machines settings so the game will get high fps. still, with dual 8 core xeons it's not really much of an issue.
if someone is running a celeron i would not set the polling rate to 1000. that is like 5% on that cpu.
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« Reply #61 on: Sat, 01 January 2011, 19:10:35 »
i don't understand how this thing is not too fast for me on 5700 dpi. it obviously is not working right. of course logitech simply offers to send another one. some tech support. i guess it is cheaper to pay some east indian guy and send a new mouse than offer decent support. the problem is none of them work right. i need some stinking support on this. darnit. it will move fast if i crank the speed slider but that is not resolution it is acceleration.
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Offline BlueRain

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« Reply #62 on: Sat, 01 January 2011, 20:26:22 »
I tried it on 5700/5700 and it felt fast, but not like uncontrollably fast. I am not sure where your expectation lies.
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« Reply #63 on: Sun, 02 January 2011, 20:25:05 »
hmm. this mouse simply is not fast enough then with windows controls. i guess i do need set point installed. the joke is logitech replaced it twice!
i mean that was very nice of them but i'd think they would have some tech support. i figured 5700 would be completely uncontrolable. with set points speed slider it is plenty fast. with windows slider maxed out it is not fast enough. in fact 1200 dpi is fine with the slider 2 notches past the middle in setpoint.

now, i do not understand why setponit says 4.3 after i install it but it is 6 something i installed. i guess it does not matter. it just makes me unhappy that the mouse driver is some 40mb. then again it is more than just a mouse driver. overall this has been my favorite mouse so far. i guess you need different x and y if you have a wide screen. i don't have one.
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« Reply #64 on: Sun, 02 January 2011, 23:47:01 »
i figured it out. it works fine with a logitech driver in device manager extracted from setpoint. then i uninstalled setpoint.

it is at 2000 dpi with the slider 2 notches past the middle in windows. i can't imagine how slow the mouse must be for people that have 32"+ displays nowdays.
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Offline phillip

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« Reply #65 on: Tue, 04 January 2011, 12:17:20 »
I like my g500, but I still can't find the perfect settings for it for cs :(
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« Reply #66 on: Tue, 04 January 2011, 23:53:17 »
i think it is probably a bad gaming mouse in fact. even though i don't game. you have to be real careful not to hit the wrong side button and let the scroll free. if i had to whip it around fast i doubt i'd be happy with it. of course ymmv. it is afterall sold as a gaming mouse.
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Offline phillip

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« Reply #67 on: Wed, 05 January 2011, 07:57:08 »
I have zero issues with the side buttons and the scroll wheel, I just can't find the perfect dpi/sensitivity settings.
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« Reply #68 on: Sun, 30 January 2011, 03:33:47 »
i now have the xai. to me it is far more comfortable than the g500. it is feather light and i did not even have weights in the g500. it also seems to be much more precise. not hitting the side buttons as i am right handed took a few hours to adjust to. i thought the g500 was great but i like the xai better now. i do miss all the buttons. the xai has tilt "buttons" however i have not gotten them to function. apparently they don't. that is not a deal breaker for me since it is simply much more comfortable in my hand. it does not get all sweaty but i am guessing it is going to require regular cleaning. i still have a couple of g500's. so if i change my mind.....
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« Reply #69 on: Sun, 30 January 2011, 19:25:53 »
i ordered a zowie ec2 the other day

hoping ill like it more than the g500 :)
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« Reply #70 on: Wed, 02 February 2011, 07:39:50 »
the zowie has a good shape like the xai. i don't think it has advanced electronics like the xai or g500 though. doesn't even matter. the electronics in those is overkill. i hope you like it. the g500 has great features but it was too big and heavy once i felt the xai. the problem with the xai is it has majer bugs that are not worked out. i certainly would not rely on it to win games. i can't see how pro's would use it. maybe mine is a dud.
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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 03 February 2011, 00:29:02 »
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the zowie has a good shape like the xai. i don't think it has advanced electronics like the xai or g500 though. doesn't even matter. the electronics in those is overkill. i hope you like it. the g500 has great features but it was too big and heavy once i felt the xai. the problem with the xai is it has majer bugs that are not worked out. i certainly would not rely on it to win games. i can't see how pro's would use it. maybe mine is a dud.


do you know if the G9x has the same problem of drawing excessive current as well? My friend said he can hear a low-pitch current noise from his G9x, could be the same problem.
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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 03 February 2011, 08:03:41 »
i've been using the ec2 for a few days now.  it's great :D
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« Reply #73 on: Fri, 04 February 2011, 20:35:02 »
i was wrong. steel series software is so buggy it simply was not for me. i had heard this but i had to find out for myself. also the g500 is not as comfortable as the mx518 for me but overall it won out the xai. i thought the xai was more comfortable for me but it was not. also i find all the extra settings the xai has only serve to make it less precise. regardless of what they are set too. i apologize for recommending the xai and then changing my mind. i try a lot of different stuff and then go back to what was the least of the evil's.
ymmv. not with steel series software though. it is just very poor coding.

all these mice have the same sensor. so i suppose they all draw out of spec current. if it is humming that is not a good thing i'd guess. it could be some other electronics in the mouse though.
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« Reply #74 on: Sun, 06 February 2011, 20:15:32 »
i can't wait until the corded version of the mx700 comes out! why do they always introduce the top product as wireless? it has the same sensor but i love the extra and easier to use buttons.
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« Reply #75 on: Tue, 08 February 2011, 14:06:27 »
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i can't wait until the corded version of the mx700 comes out! why do they always introduce the top product as wireless? it has the same sensor but i love the extra and easier to use buttons.

I just want the next flagship G series from them NOW,

the G9 has been out now for 3 years, it feels awkward in my hand with/without grip, but an excellent mouse nonetheless, maybe logitech can whip up something more sensible for their next G mouse, the G9x was quite disappointing in that sense.
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« Reply #76 on: Wed, 16 February 2011, 13:17:20 »
This is an interesting and informative thread. After a ton of research (this forum being part of that research), my mouse choice was narrowed down to either the Xai or the G500.
I'm pretty sure that I'll be getting a G500, before the end of next week. :)
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« Reply #77 on: Wed, 16 February 2011, 14:12:18 »
I have a G500. Very, very nice mouse.

I didn't know it at the time, but when I picked it as the most comfortable at Best Buy it was because it has the same body as the Logitech mouse I'd been using before; but more features and a better sensor.
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« Reply #78 on: Wed, 16 February 2011, 15:20:50 »
I can't believe some of the negativity in this thread towards the G500, it saddens me!

In the past year I've used the G5, G7, Deathadder, Mamba, and G500 - I've used them for sessions of FPS (cod blackops/BF:BC2) and MMO gaming (wow) and had put a minimum of 1 weeks worth of use at 4-10hours of gaming a day on each.

I have to say that nothing comes close to the G500, the first thing that sold me was the inifinite scroll mousewheel. It was great for my warrior in wow. I put the most use into both the G5 and G500, so I guess I'm more biased. But I really did give the razer's a chance.

Also, on black friday, they were 35$ from newegg and I bought one for my sister and a friend. One was using a Razer, and the other a G7 - both couldn't be happier. The macro buttons are fantastic for wow, perfect placement, and the middle mouse isn't a hassle to click.

I kind of want to get a G700 now just for the hell of it because I like this one so much.
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« Reply #79 on: Wed, 16 February 2011, 16:14:09 »
I've read a lot of g500 reviews. Some state a big con as the g500's limitation of only being able to store one profile. Some tout its ability to store multiple profiles. Which one is true?
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« Reply #80 on: Wed, 16 February 2011, 19:54:48 »
I'm pretty sure it can store multiple profiles but I never tried so I dunno
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« Reply #81 on: Wed, 16 February 2011, 21:44:41 »
This is all that the Logitech site has to say about memory.

"You can store your settings and ready-to-play profile on the on-board memory and take it with you anywhere.**"

"You can save your settings on the mouse. A ready-to-play profile (for keyboard macros and dpi settings) stores critical info for your favorite title.**"

Kinda sounds like it's only one onboard profile.
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« Reply #82 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 00:43:26 »
I own and use a g500 which I am very happy with. I got it because I like the shape, but the fantastic scroll wheel was unexpected bonus. Originally, I was going to get a similarly shaped black mx518, but I found the raised logo badge on the top of the mouse was in the most sensitive part of my palm.

I'll admit that I haven't messed around with creating profiles because I didn't want to install the Logicool software. But my understanding is that the g500's onboard memory can store only a single profile. Other (application specific) profiles are possible, but they are stored on the computer and are activated through SetPoint.

In contrast, I read that the g700 and the g9 can store up to five profiles which can be switched between with a physical button. Perhaps there will be a future revision of the g500 with more onboard memory profiles. But does anyone actually use them? I'd be interested to hear some real usage stories.
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« Reply #83 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 09:47:38 »
I don't know because I've never had a mouse with the ability.

This raises a question. Is the normal everyday usage, 'scroll up, scroll down, right click, left click menu, page forward, etc., etc.' counted as a profile that has to be changed via the software before game play?

Another question concerns the scroll wheel: It's a button and it scrolls up and down and side to side. Can each operation be programmed; ie. scroll down=primary weapon, scroll up=secondary weapon,
scroll right=grenade, scroll left=melee weapon and click=reload??????

Someone who knows say 'yes' and make my day. :party:
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« Reply #84 on: Thu, 17 February 2011, 21:08:59 »
at first when i got the xai i thought it was more comfortable because it was smaller. it put my hand in an awkward posiiton. went back to the g500 and it's like an old friend. there's a g700? seriously. i'll go check logitech. if there is, must have!

oh, i already mentioned that but i thought it was an mx. like i said, why always the flagship mouse from logitech wireless? i don't do wireless. has the same sensor. more buttons. must have more buttons!
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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 09:29:57 »
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... went back to the g500 and it's like an old friend.


typo,

How programmable is your old friends scroll wheel?
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« Reply #86 on: Fri, 18 February 2011, 11:19:40 »
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more buttons. must have more buttons!


Here ya go. Double clicking function change, too!

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2366185,00.asp
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« Reply #87 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 20:46:24 »
the scroll wheel can do any shortcut or macro you want. including the tilt. you must have setpoint installed however.
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« Reply #88 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 20:49:30 »
war mouse looks awesome and it is priced really good for what it is. i hope it is comfortable for me.
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« Reply #89 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 17:08:38 »
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war mouse looks awesome and it is priced really good for what it is. i hope it is comfortable for me.


Don't neglect your left hand! :juggle:
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« Reply #90 on: Sun, 20 February 2011, 17:20:14 »
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the scroll wheel can do any shortcut or macro you want. including the tilt. you must have setpoint installed however.


I guess eventually I'll learn about macros, but for now I have more buttons than I know what to do with. :biggrin1: I bought the G500 today and I'm really impressed. I've got 5 different programs just on the scroll wheel (up, down, left, right and press). The press needs to be definite, but otherwise, it's not a problem. I have 3 other programs for the side buttons and I'm keeping the dpi buttons for dpi experimenting. I love this f#*king mouse!
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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 01:29:16 »
i tried the g700 today and i will not be looking forward to a corded version.
the g500 has less buttons but the buttons it has are far superior. the g700 does not have clicky buttons and they give no feeling that you have engaged them. the scroll wheel on the g500 is the best i have ever seen. metal with a rubber grip ring. the wheel on the g700 appears to be standard plastic. also the tilt does not have tactile feedback much like the mx1000. i have tried almost all current mice now. the g500 may not have as many buttons as some. overall it is simply superior in ergonomics to any other mouse imo. of course ymmv. mice are a personal fit. i have yet to find a better more precise mouse than the g500. i do not have the acceleration issue since i move very slow for what i do. i have also heard if you set the dpi to 1500 or less, let setpoint use the os controls and set those to the 6th. bar there will be no acceleration issue. that is if you are playing games. of course for c#,autocad,matlab and various visual sdk's this mouse is a lot more than fun and games. i probably put more miles on it than i do on my car. my wrist couldn't feel better. combined with cherry blues, a good desk and chair i should be devoid of any office injuries. people think that is a joke but it is far from a joke. ask someone with carpal tunnel.
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« Reply #92 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 10:20:22 »
I checked out the g700 last month when it was on sale at FutureShop. I wasn't blown away.

typo,

I haven't been able to enable the Set Point automatic application detection of Nexon's Combat Arms fps game. Any clues?
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« Reply #93 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 10:53:49 »
i honestly have no idea how setpoint recognizes applications.
it does not recognize software decelopment tools of course. not that i need it to.
maybe it has built in "templates" for a lot of games and does not have that one. that's just a guess.
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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 21 February 2011, 17:18:58 »
I sent the Logitech 'help' people a question about it. I'm wondering if Nexon's hack shield might be the problem.
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« Reply #95 on: Thu, 24 February 2011, 20:52:55 »
x2, gr1m! sheesh.
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« Reply #96 on: Sun, 27 February 2011, 07:48:35 »
Quote from: singgirler;300597
x2, gr1m! sheesh.

What does that mean?

P. S. The problem is solved, btw.

... and macros are pretty easy, too. :)
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It has a heart like thee, a brain open to heaven and hell,
Withinside wondrous and expansive; its gates are not closed;
I hope thine are not.

Offline keyboardlover

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« Reply #97 on: Sun, 27 February 2011, 07:54:08 »
Where the hell IS gr1m anyway? We all thought he moved to Germany since he likes cherry blacks.
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