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Offline TacticalCoder

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Can a 1391403 Model M be industrial?
« on: Fri, 11 March 2011, 18:45:29 »
Re everyone,

Is it possible to have a german QWERTZ "1391403" that would be an "industrial" model?

I saw a link here on this forum of an auction on eBay germany about a Model M that looks like it's the industrial one, but the seller writes that the part number is 1391403 (actually I'm typing this on a 1391403, but it's "white", not "industrial").

Also, how much would you say it would be worth if it's an industrial Model M?
HHKB Pro JP (daily driver) -- HHKB Pro 2 -- Industrial IBM Model M 1395240-- NIB Cherry MX 5000 - IBM Model M 1391412 (Swiss QWERTZ) -- IBM Model M 1391403 (German QWERTZ) * 2 -- IBM Model M Ambra -- Black IBM Model M M13 -- IBM Model M 1391401 -- IBM Model M 139? ? ? *2 -- Dell AT102W -- Ergo (split) SmartBoard (white ALPS apparently)

Offline ch_123

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Can a 1391403 Model M be industrial?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 11 March 2011, 19:18:02 »
No, a German Industrial Model M would have a part number like 1394958 (I think). Either the seller has the wrong part number, or the wrong pic.

Offline Pylon

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Can a 1391403 Model M be industrial?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 11 March 2011, 20:54:01 »
Sixty has a Blue Label 1997 Model M on which he installed an industrial case (Unicomp had some spare cases).


The seller may have done that.

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Can a 1391403 Model M be industrial?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 12 March 2011, 04:29:17 »
Quote from: Pylon;310212
Sixty has a Blue Label 1997 Model M on which he installed an industrial case (Unicomp had some spare cases).
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The seller may have done that.
Now, if Unicomp would change the label covering the LEDs to something more cleanly designed like the one in the pic, I think I might be a bit more interested.  But me, being as anal as I am, I don't like a few things about Unicomp boards when comparing them to the original model M by IBM.  (My comparison to follow in a couple of days)
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Can a 1391403 Model M be industrial?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 12 March 2011, 07:06:45 »
Quote from: bettablue;310332
Now, if Unicomp would change the label covering the LEDs to something more cleanly designed like the one in the pic, I think I might be a bit more interested.  But me, being as anal as I am, I don't like a few things about Unicomp boards when comparing them to the original model M by IBM.  (My comparison to follow in a couple of days)

I have to say, when you find a model M that doesn't have any kind of fading or yellowing (like both of mine), I think they look GREAT.  Before I took mine into the office just after the Christmas holiday I thought it looked solid, professional and high quality considering its age right down to the way the LED area appeared.  A lot of old computer gear just looks...BAD...even though I spent a lot of time using it when it used to be state of the art.  I didn't think that at all about the model M.  I have not seen a Unicomp in person, but all of the pictures I see on their site don't appeal to me.  I'd rather have the 20 year old IBM.  I would not rather have a 20 year old mouse, monitor, processor, case, sound card, operating system, speakers (well, maybe in a few cases), cell phone, storage or anything else.  But keyboard?  It didn't bother me at all.

I found it odd that within 15 minutes I received a "what's with the ancient retro keyboard" comment from a co-worker of nearly identical age and experience as myself.  Maybe he meant to say, "Hey, what's with the AWESOME ancient, retro keyboard?"   LOL
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Offline gilgam

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 12 March 2011, 08:10:24 »
Quote from: Pylon;310212

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That one looks very beautiful....
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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 12 March 2011, 11:13:21 »
It does indeed!
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Offline TacticalCoder

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 13 March 2011, 13:46:26 »
Quote from: gilgam;310368
That one looks very beautiful....


Shiny :)

Bah the auction is already at 60 Euros and it looks a bit like a lemon: the seller didn't answer me, I asked him if the part number was really 1391403 and got no answer.

So I won't add an industrial Model M to my collection today : (
HHKB Pro JP (daily driver) -- HHKB Pro 2 -- Industrial IBM Model M 1395240-- NIB Cherry MX 5000 - IBM Model M 1391412 (Swiss QWERTZ) -- IBM Model M 1391403 (German QWERTZ) * 2 -- IBM Model M Ambra -- Black IBM Model M M13 -- IBM Model M 1391401 -- IBM Model M 139? ? ? *2 -- Dell AT102W -- Ergo (split) SmartBoard (white ALPS apparently)