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Offline dotancohen

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Wife's friend needed Colemak to type!
« on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 02:03:19 »
One of the most computer-illiterate people that I know visited us last weekend. In order to type out an email on my computer, she actually needed me to switch to Colemak from Qwerty! I never thought that I would see the day. Interestingly, she had never heard the word Colemak before.

Brainteaser: what situation led to this extraordinary development? Can anyone come up with a mundane explanation?

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 02:39:41 »
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Offline fireball87

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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 03:10:29 »
If it's a riddle the answer is more then likely this.

Your keycaps are colemak, but she can't touch type.  She hunts and pecks keys, they show up wrong because your OS is currently set to qwerty.  Therefore you must change the layout to match the keys.  Also would explain why she had no clue what colemak is.

Other suitable answers would be she learned to touch type colemak because your friend convinced her to (was his layout of choice).

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 03:25:33 »
Quote from: fireball87;462646
If it's a riddle the answer is more then likely this.

Your keycaps are colemak, but she can't touch type.  She hunts and pecks keys, they show up wrong because your OS is currently set to qwerty.  Therefore you must change the layout to match the keys.  Also would explain why she had no clue what colemak is.

Solved in an hour! I thought that it would last longer than that...

Though to be fair, I do a bit of hunting-pecking with Cokemak!

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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 04:47:48 »
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Though to be fair, I do a bit of hunting-pecking with Cokemak!


My keyboard robs me of such luxury for colemak.  (blank keys, I know qwerty well enough to hunt and peck the blank keys pretty well, I just make a few more mistakes) Hunting and pecking can be very useful though.  No guarantees that you would have 2 free hands.  I gained a secondary related skill, I learned to hold my laptop against my legs while standing to type something quickly.

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 05:19:27 »
I have had blank keyboards in the past, I love them to death. The current keyboards aren't blank, but they may as well be. The Comfort Keyboard is split so wide that I cannot see the keys anyway, and the Ducky is a mess of Chinese characters that does a great job of camouflaging the English. The letters are visible if I need them, but do not "jump" out at me or cause me to peek.

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 03 December 2011, 23:17:19 »
My research:
Qwerty has never worked very well for me. Never comfortable. Played with dvorak and liked it, somehow vowels on the home row of one hand seemed to work for me. Made the change to the Kinesis Advantage and as I was farting around with qwerty and making a switch to dvorak, I saw Colemak and tried it. It is a little right hand biased, but it works very well (for me). Stayed with it. I may take the time to look at some info on the 'fully optimized Colemak', or maybe even do a complete layout change to something else, but I don't know what that motivation would be. Faster typing? Easier typing? Not much difference that I can notice at this point.

I like the carpalx website and all the various links/sources/info/etc. Fascinating stuff until I use my Datahand and laugh it all off, as it doesn't really apply any longer at that level. I think anything is better than qwerty for me. I'm sure there is better/worse out of the contenders, but a lot of it seems to be splitting hairs. Your hand cramping could be an indicator of something you need to be very cautious about. I can see how the research portion would be of great importance, but if your hand cramps, who cares what the research says???

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Offline fireball87

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 03 December 2011, 23:20:18 »
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I gave it a shot for a couple of months and although I immediately understood its efficiency, it made my right hand cramp up due to being so right hand biased.

Uh, according to carpalx's data colemak prefers the left hand by 6 percent.  The same as QGMLWY.  

If in 6 months they have good support, I'll likely choose QGMLWY, otherwise I'll use colemak.  With layouts only a few percent different in efficiency, that both avoid choices that I don't like about other layouts, I'm bound to chose the one that's the most supported.  Actually having easily easily accessible design methodologies is clearly a plus, though.

Offline ZeroGraVT

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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 04 December 2011, 01:04:06 »
Been using Colemak for 2 months now and like it so far. It does seem to be right hand bias especially on the kinesis but I think it's because of where the default space button is.