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Offline Taracta

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Rosewill RK-9000RE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201044

Both are MX Reds and I am planning to eventually get a  keyboard with MX Browns.

The question I have is which is the better buy?  I like the look of the Corsair K60 but not all the keys are Mechanical.  The Rosewill have (had?) some issues with the USB connection on the keyboard but  I like the Red plate. I can always wait to get a Rosewill with a different MX switch but the Corsair only comes with MX Red.  I am also planning to maybe get a Retro keycap set from Round 4 and the Gold keycaps from the Zinc group buy are looking good.  How would the Corsair K60 look with these keycaps especially since I would not be able to change the non-Mechanical keys?  I believe that the Silver Keycaps from the Zinc group buy would look terrific on the Corsair K60 but I prefer the Gold!  By the way, the keycaps are going to cost more than the keyboards! This is madness!

Please HELP!
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Offline daerid

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Spend $10-$20 more, and get a CM Storm QuickFire w/ Reds.

Best gaming keyboard on the market, IMO. 100% Cherry Red switches, tenkeyless, and same quality construction as a Filco.

Offline CaiSter21

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dont ever get the corsair mechanical keyboards.
they aren't even true mechanical keyboards which means that you will feel a big difference between pressing mechanical and rubber dome keys. if you need the numpad, get the rosewill w/red switches, if you dont really need a numpad, then definitely get the cm quickfire rapid w/reds
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Offline Taracta

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Quote from: daerid;549224
Spend $10-$20 more, and get a CM Storm QuickFire w/ Reds.

Best gaming keyboard on the market, IMO. 100% Cherry Red switches, tenkeyless, and same quality construction as a Filco.

How much difference between the Rosewill and the Filco and is the build quality of the Cosair bad?  Why should I pay more for a Tenkeyless keyboard?
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Offline Taracta

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dont ever get the corsair mechanical keyboards.
they aren't even true mechanical keyboards which means that you will feel a big difference between pressing mechanical and rubber dome keys. if you need the numpad, get the rosewill w/red switches, if you dont really need a numpad, then definitely get the cm quickfire rapid w/reds

I find that in most of my usage, being a computer professional and a gamer (when I have time), the dome keys on the Corsair are not used much and the different feel of those keys might be a good thing notifing me that I have pressed one of those keys.  I find myself using the Numpad more than those keys!  In other words, I am more likely to miss a numpad than to have issues with the dome keys on the Corsair.  How bad are the domes on the Corsair?
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Offline CaiSter21

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Filco's are considered the ferraris of cherry mechanical keyboards. They are good, but even they still have faults.

Not much is know about the build quality of the corsair keyboards cus most ppl here don't even consider purchasing them simply due to the fact that they aren't true mechanical keyboards.

As for why you should pay more for the quickfire when it is a TKL board, its because some ppl prefer the TKL layout since it means that your mouse position is much closer to you. Thats why i asked if you wanted a numpad or not.

edit: more programs and games use the function row keys than you think. ie battlefield, firefox, chrome, LoL, sc2
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As far as I know, build quality between the Rosewill and Filco is comparable, however they have had issues with reliability regarding their USB connectors and controller boards. No idea about the quality of the Corsair, but the fact that it's not 100% mechanical just tells me that they were trying to cut corners on manufacturing.

I think only with Topre boards are the tenkeyless more expensive than their full-size counterparts. As to why the tenkeyless Coolermaster is more expensive than the Rosewill, the only thing I can say is that you get what you pay for *shrug*.

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Hey,
I have actually received my Rosewill RK-9000RE two days ago and i must say so far i am really satisfied with it.
So far i've owned several keyboards, including 3 Filcos and the build quality is comparable. i havent had the chance to test it for a long period of time but i am really liking this keyboard.
I use multiple keyboards, and almost all my keyboards have a detachable cable, so it makes it very convenient for me, all i need to do to change the body and not reach behind my computer.

I personally prefer full size keyboards as i tend to use the numpad pretty often. however if youre the type of guy that always tried to find solutions to have the keyboard closer to the mouse (i remember trying to tuck some of my pad under my keyboard so they are closed together, before i knew TKL existed) then i would definitely go with the CM Storm. i am really impressed with the product quality, very solid build, very good feeling (a lot of ugly logos, but you can find creative ways to remove them).

I wouldnt buy the Corsair, i havent owned one personally but just the fact that its not all mechanical seems really silly to me. first of all everybody who has ever pressed a mechanical key in his life will tell you that the feeling is completely different. you are basically giving up on the option to replace the set of keycaps (because cherry caps are not compatible with dome keys). and the thing that annoys me the most, is that fact that the package does not mention anywhere that not the entire keyboard is mechanical.

Hope this helps.
Have fun.

Offline Taracta

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I was able to find the CM Storm SGK-4000-GKCR1-US that has MX Red switches at the Coolermaster for $100.96 w/shipping.  I am unable to find it elsewhere, only the CM Storm keyboard with MX Blue could be found at other sites.  It looks good but cost too much for less.  I will stick with the choice of the Corsair or the Rosewill unless there are some other keyboard(s) with MX Red or MX Brown (wishful thinking for MX Clears?) at a comparable price.

As for the Corsair did they really cheap out considering the Brushed Aluminum body or did they make a design choice? All the keys that would require major APMs when playing games and other activities would be Mechanical.  Sure we would prefer that the keyboard was fully mechanical but that would drive up price or else they would just make another “me too” keyboard with no distinction from the others.  The only reason that I think the Rosewill RK-9000 series was readily accepted by GH is because the Filcos has a good reputation and is seems that the same ODM makes the Rosewill RK-9000 series and the Rosewill can be found at good prices quite frequently.  Otherwise it would have been another “me too” keyboard and probably shunned and called cheap.

The Corsair does have some style to it and with some DS or Metal keycaps on the mechanical switches should look nice but how nice compared to the Rosewill with full DS or DS/Metal keycaps?
Keyboard(s): CORSAIR Vengence K60

Offline CaiSter21

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id say that corsair cheaped out on the switches. why make an aluminum body when the majority of the time, your fingers are on the keys. i cant imagine it as a design choice because it would mean that they knowingly made a bad decision. its like saying, "hey, lets make the outside of this car as flashy as possible, but then leave some problems with the brakes."

imo, get the rosewill w/reds because thats a good board. so wat if it looks like all the other boards, a keyboard doesnt need to be flashy, it just has to work. ie. simpler is better.
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Offline dieseldog49

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Corsair Vengence K60 Or Rosewill RK-9000RE both $79.99 w/Shipping at Newegg?
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 17 March 2012, 21:52:25 »
I too am actually debating snagging either a Rosewill with reds (I have a 10 dollar off coupon so I can get it for $70) or the K60 for $70

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Corsair Vengence K60 Or Rosewill RK-9000RE both $79.99 w/Shipping at Newegg?
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 17 March 2012, 22:16:17 »
Quote from: Taracta;549330
I was able to find the CM Storm SGK-4000-GKCR1-US that has MX Red switches at the Coolermaster for $100.96 w/shipping.  I am unable to find it elsewhere, only the CM Storm keyboard with MX Blue could be found at other sites.  It looks good but cost too much for less.  I will stick with the choice of the Corsair or the Rosewill unless there are some other keyboard(s) with MX Red or MX Brown (wishful thinking for MX Clears?) at a comparable price.

As for the Corsair did they really cheap out considering the Brushed Aluminum body or did they make a design choice? All the keys that would require major APMs when playing games and other activities would be Mechanical.  Sure we would prefer that the keyboard was fully mechanical but that would drive up price or else they would just make another “me too” keyboard with no distinction from the others.  The only reason that I think the Rosewill RK-9000 series was readily accepted by GH is because the Filcos has a good reputation and is seems that the same ODM makes the Rosewill RK-9000 series and the Rosewill can be found at good prices quite frequently.  Otherwise it would have been another “me too” keyboard and probably shunned and called cheap.

The Corsair does have some style to it and with some DS or Metal keycaps on the mechanical switches should look nice but how nice compared to the Rosewill with full DS or DS/Metal keycaps?

How do you put DS or metal keycaps on a Rubber Dome keys? Their mounting system is different...
Also, if you plan to change the keycaps in future, keep away from Corsair. Not only those RD is unable to find replacement, also their bottom rows(Ctrl, Alt, Spacebar) are odd to over 9000(ok, may be i exaggerated a little...). They are the only one in the market who use such standard, 1.5x sized Ctrl, 1.25x sized(most popular standard on modern mechanical keyboard) Alt and the utmost strange thing we ever came across(lol, again may be i exaggerated a little...), a 6.5x sized spacebar....

Lastly, the "Cherry Style Stabiliser" is pretty much being hate at most users from GH plus it isn't too suitable to be used for a "topless" board(dirt/dust can easy go in through the stabiliser) which is hard to open too(AFAIK, a screw is hiding under the Corsair logo).

So the verdict is, whats the reason you looking for a keyboard? You want something flashy and attention whoring or you seek for a better consistency in typing feel(individual switches can be fixed if anything go wrong, but RD can't) and durability of keyboard(not that I am bashing or promoting either keyboard here, in fact I also like what K60 offers). It's your money, your choice and your keyboard, so you are the one who choose to spend on one which will make you happy and satisfy.
« Last Edit: Sat, 17 March 2012, 22:25:07 by Human »

Offline anselben

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Corsair Vengence K60 Or Rosewill RK-9000RE both $79.99 w/Shipping at Newegg?
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 17 March 2012, 23:03:00 »
From what I've been told the rubber dome keys on the k60 don't matter because they are keys you don't use all the time. That of course is personal to how you feel about your keyboard. I wouldn't have gotten one though because that's just one of the things that would bug the hell out of me, and would notice when I eventually hit those keys. And I think the rosewill looks great and is simple enough.

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Corsair Vengence K60 Or Rosewill RK-9000RE both $79.99 w/Shipping at Newegg?
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 18 March 2012, 00:45:03 »
Quote from: anselben;549411
From what I've been told the rubber dome keys on the k60 don't matter because they are keys you don't use all the time. That of course is personal to how you feel about your keyboard. I wouldn't have gotten one though because that's just one of the things that would bug the hell out of me, and would notice when I eventually hit those keys. And I think the rosewill looks great and is simple enough.

Exactly. I can't stand half-ass solutions.

Offline Taracta

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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 18 March 2012, 13:14:09 »
Quote from: CaiSter21;549347
id say that corsair cheaped out on the switches. why make an aluminum body when the majority of the time, your fingers are on the keys. i cant imagine it as a design choice because it would mean that they knowingly made a bad decision. its like saying, "hey, lets make the outside of this car as flashy as possible, but then leave some problems with the brakes."

imo, get the rosewill w/reds because thats a good board. so wat if it looks like all the other boards, a keyboard doesnt need to be flashy, it just has to work. ie. simpler is better.

Spoken by someone with a Ducky Shine, possibly DS on his Rosewill, with different WASD keys on keyboards, ESC and other keys color highlighted? I like the aluminum body and the raised keys look of the K60, it is unique and your car analogy is wrong.  It is more like seeing a flashy new sports car with nice dual exhaust and at closer look realizing that it is just regular exhaust with shiny tips that's not even attached to the exhaust!  Disappointing but it is not significant.
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Offline Taracta

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 18 March 2012, 13:14:56 »
Quote from: dieseldog49;549348
I too am actually debating snagging either a Rosewill with reds (I have a 10 dollar off coupon so I can get it for $70) or the K60 for $70

You know my pain!
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Offline Taracta

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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 18 March 2012, 13:21:02 »
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How do you put DS or metal keycaps on a Rubber Dome keys? Their mounting system is different...
Also, if you plan to change the keycaps in future, keep away from Corsair. Not only those RD is unable to find replacement, also their bottom rows(Ctrl, Alt, Spacebar) are odd to over 9000(ok, may be i exaggerated a little...). They are the only one in the market who use such standard, 1.5x sized Ctrl, 1.25x sized(most popular standard on modern mechanical keyboard) Alt and the utmost strange thing we ever came across(lol, again may be i exaggerated a little...), a 6.5x sized spacebar....

Lastly, the "Cherry Style Stabiliser" is pretty much being hate at most users from GH plus it isn't too suitable to be used for a "topless" board(dirt/dust can easy go in through the stabiliser) which is hard to open too(AFAIK, a screw is hiding under the Corsair logo).

So the verdict is, whats the reason you looking for a keyboard? You want something flashy and attention whoring or you seek for a better consistency in typing feel(individual switches can be fixed if anything go wrong, but RD can't) and durability of keyboard(not that I am bashing or promoting either keyboard here, in fact I also like what K60 offers). It's your money, your choice and your keyboard, so you are the one who choose to spend on one which will make you happy and satisfy.

It is obvious that only the MX switches keys would be replaced, isn't it?  I will take your other comments into consideration.
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Offline Taracta

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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 18 March 2012, 13:24:15 »
Didn't I have the link to the K60 in my original post?
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Offline Rinx7

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Corsair Vengence K60 Or Rosewill RK-9000RE both $79.99 w/Shipping at Newegg?
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 19 March 2012, 06:28:20 »
If it is between the two of them go for the Rosewill, it has the same OEM as Filco and is way better than the half-assed K60 which isn't even fully mechanical. Rosewills are pretty great if you can get rid of the logo or if you don't mind it.

Offline Taracta

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« Reply #19 on: Tue, 20 March 2012, 11:55:50 »
I pulled the trigger on the K60 today (just before posting this message).  I will get the Rosewill in MX Brown when the price is right.  Hopefully not too soon as I am going to get some keycaps.   Now to decide between Retro or Noir and Gold or Silver.:help:
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« Reply #20 on: Tue, 20 March 2012, 12:09:38 »
Quote from: Taracta;551527
I pulled the trigger on the K60 today (just before posting this message).  I will get the Rosewill in MX Brown when the price is right.  Hopefully not too soon as I am going to get some keycaps.   Now to decide between Retro or Noir and Gold or Silver.:help:
For keycaps, you are basically limited to the 37keys part as most other keys can't fit in K60. Choose whatever color you like/suit with the color of your keyboard.

Offline Taracta

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« Reply #21 on: Tue, 20 March 2012, 13:15:10 »
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For keycaps, you are basically limited to the 37keys part as most other keys can't fit in K60. Choose whatever color you like/suit with the color of your keyboard.


That's why I am kind of laning towards the gold/silver in the Zinc group buy.  Otherwise I do have to plan for future keyboards and the other keys could be used for them.
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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 22 March 2012, 17:17:20 »
Got my Corsair Vengence K60.  Textured spacebar, didn't know that!
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