Low travel crumb resistant keyboards

[bgst]

Hey this is my first post in here so hi everyone!

My trusty old Cherry g83 rubber dome keyboard died and I thought I would try something new so I bought a Cherry Evolution Stream XT scissors switch keyboard.  I really love the low key travel but I keep getting problems with bread crumbs getting stuck under the keys, and when I try to clean the keys they are hard to remove and even harder to get back on:(

Are there any other low travel keyboards that doesn't have this problem or am I forced to get another g83 or maybe a mechanical?  I live in Denmark so I need a Danish/Nordic layout.

Thanks
Benjamin

[davkol]

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[bgst]

I don't know... I just thought they would be annoying.  Also, I'm not sure I can find one for my keyboard.  I keep getting mac keyboard protectors when I search.

[bgst]

You can buy a TypeMatrix 2030 and purchase a 'skin' which will keep everything out.

Thanks but I'm to conservative for that I think.  I prefer a standard layout.

What about those Apple type keyboards? I think I've read somewhere that they were less prone to crumb problems... Not that I would buy a Apple keyboard but I could buy a similar one like this: http://www.dustinhome.dk/deltaco-slim-keyboard-usb-black/product/5010602215.

[bgst]

Just get the Apple Aluminum.  Much better than the clones.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?24492-In-Praise-Of-The-Apple-Aluminum-Wireless

I couldn't get that one since I dislike Apple and don't wanna support them.

[sth]

You probably won't find a better scissordome bro. Get a used one on CL or check PowerMax?

[davkol]

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[captain]

Apple scissor switch and a rubber. Best scissor switches and protection in one. Give up on affecting Apple one iota. Help yourself.

[bgst]

Thanks, but I simply don't feel comfortable buying Apple stuff.

But let me ask the question in another way.  Are all scissors switch keyboards (including Apple) more prone to stuck keys because of crumbs than rubber domes?

I can't figure out if I should just go back to a g83.

[sth]

Thanks, but I simply don't feel comfortable buying Apple stuff.

But let me ask the question in another way.  Are all scissors switch keyboards (including Apple) more prone to stuck keys because of crumbs than rubber domes?

I can't figure out if I should just go back to a g83.

Well, you're pretty much SOL. The Apple board is the only scissor keyboard most people will recommend around here, and they're not exactly rare... getting a used one puts no money in Apple's pockets.

Or, try a black switch plate-mounted keyboard. They're not low travel but you can actuate them without bottoming out pretty easily, and O rings or landing pads will decrease that possibility further.

Do realize that you're asking a community of enthusiasts who spend a LOT of time on keyboards, the majority of which are not Apple fans. Even then, people still recommend the Apple keyboard for scissor switches.

[bgst]

It's not like I don't believe that Apple makes the best scissor switch keyboard.  I do believe that.

I don't wanna start an Apple/PC/Google fight, but there are some people who refuse to buy Apple stuff no matter what.  I can see how that would seem stupid but that's who I am.  If I someday change then the first thing I will do is to buy an Apple keyboard.  I just hope they make them in black at that time since I hate the aluminum look.

[davkol]

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[mcgci5450]

I know what you mean about wanting to avoid apple products. I try to do the same thing whenever I can. But like sth said getting a used one would work well for you since apple wouldn't profit at all from the sale.

[bgst]

I know what you mean about wanting to avoid apple products. I try to do the same thing whenever I can. But like sth said getting a used one would work well for you since apple wouldn't profit at all from the sale.

Buying used products raises the price in the used market which makes more people buy the new stuff instead.  But I don't know if that's why I really won't buy it.  I think it is more because I have problems enjoying stuff if it is made buy a company that I really don't like.  Btw this keyboard looks like it has even better crumb resistance than the Apple one:  http://www.logitech.com/da-dk/keyboards/keyboard/devices/k750-keyboard - It's very ugly tho.

[Daniel Beardsmore]

This Apple wired clone keyboard intrigues me. Makes me wonder if it's from the same OEM.

Notice though that, in ISO, the enter key is the correct size. Despite what ANSI lovers say, I tend to hit the far side of the enter key, and on the Apple wired aluminium my finger strikes bare metal instead. Stupid keyboard.

The switches can't possibly suck more than Apple's, though. For island keys, I find Sony's switches more tactile than Apple's – Apple's keyboards really are hopelessly limp for scissor switches. For all the tacility they offer, you'd be no worse off tapping on the tabletop with a laser keyboard. And you wouldn't get Apple's useless ISO return key[1].

If you like dome, then I'm sorry but I can only recommend Topre ;-) I have no idea what the benefit is with short travel – I ended up in pain from hammering my scissor keyboard too hard expecting full travel and after months of this, FILCO came to Britain and I could buy a decent keyboard. It's got to be full travel for me. I suspect my ideal would be an all 55 g Topre (currently on 35/45/55 variable), as I find ALPS a touch jarring, and Cherry MX (even blues) is too light. Maybe clears … I need to try clears one day.

Topre is a much better all around balance: the benefit of proper full travel, but the smooth, clean, precise feel of island scissors that you just won't get from any other dome keyboard.


[1] Return (0x0D) and enter (0x03) aren't the same key on Macs …

[Encryptor]

Buying used products raises the price in the used market which makes more people buy the new stuff instead.  But I don't know if that's why I really won't buy it.  I think it is more because I have problems enjoying stuff if it is made buy a company that I really don't like.  Btw this keyboard looks like it has even better crumb resistance than the Apple one:  http://www.logitech.com/da-dk/keyboards/keyboard/devices/k750-keyboard - It's very ugly tho.

I have a wireless backlit Logitech keyboard (K800) with similar keys, I believe.  In my opinion, the keys have a decent feel to them.  I snack on things when I use it and haven't noticed any crumbs stuck in it.