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Offline swagpiratex

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Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« on: Wed, 22 August 2012, 19:27:06 »
Hey geekhack. I decided yesterday that the mouse that I have at work isn't going to cut it, so I'm doing some research. I would like to get your input as to what is the best choice for me. Here are the parameters I'm looking to satisfy:

  • Less than $75
  • Able to seamlessly transition between palm and fingertip grip
  • Not too light

At first I thought I was a hardcore fingertip grip user. But the dual monitors that I use at work are kinda large, and I've discovered that for precision work, I use my index and ring fingers on the LR buttons, middle finger on the wheel, and thumb/pinky gripping the sides. But when I need to make gross movements, I switch from fingertip grip to palm grip, with my index/middle finger resting on the LR buttons.

This rules out the smaller mice like the Abyssus and the G9x. I tried holding the Sensei at best buy, but that is too ambidextrous for my tastes. What are other options that I should be looking at? Right now considering Razer Deathadder, Logitech G400, and the Corsair M90.

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 22 August 2012, 19:45:50 »
From experience I can recommend the Deathadder, it's really good. Only stopped using mine because I prefer only fingertip grip, and the Deathadder was too sluggish for my personal use.
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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 22 August 2012, 19:54:52 »
i recommend M90. great mouse with so many macro buttons. it has Omron switches too.only bad thing is it's quite heavy but you will get used to it imo.


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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 22 August 2012, 23:29:08 »

Offline swagpiratex

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 23 August 2012, 00:15:59 »
So i made a trip to Fry's today, and found a bunch of mice that were open boxes. Got the okay from the salesperson there and commenced to put them side by side to each other and got a chance to test drive them. The only one I didn't really get a chance to try was the Roccat Kova. But here are my impressions:

Deathadder: The mouse is PERFECT for palm grippers. However the clicking mechanism wasn't as solid as I liked and, and the shape of the mouse wasn't conducive to fingertip manipulation. I tried really hard to like this mouse because it was recommended so highly by Reddit, but ultimately, wasn't for me.

Spawn: This mouse was what I thought I wanted. Small, perfect for fingertip gripping. People said really good things about it. And I thought I liked it at first. But then I realized that the bulge on the right hand side, while perfect for ring finger support, hampered my ideal to control the mouse how I liked. This is a solid choice for people that mainly utilize the claw grip. The box even says so, lol. My girlfriend really liked this one.

Logitech G9x: This thing is amazing. The only reason why I walked home empty handed today was because the only model they had available to take home had a destroyed box without the driver CD and extra weights. None of the mice I tried today clicked as nicely as this one. I will continue to look for other mice, but leaning heavily toward this one.

Corsair M90: This mouse felt really good. The buttons on the side take conscious effort to actuate, so you'll never press them accidentally. The sides have this kind of stippled feeling. Weight was really nice. I only wish the shape of the mouse were more suited for my gripping style. Better suited for palm/claw only users.

Mionix 5000 (?): Awesome feeling mouse. Literally filled my entire hand. Needless to say, I wasn't able to manipulate it with my fingers whatsoever, so it was out of the running pretty quickly. Build quality was amazing though.

Thanks for the recommendations so far! Will take a hard look at the Sensei Raw. I think the direction I'm going to go would be an intellimouse clone, but slightly smaller with at least 5 buttons. Keep throwing names at me folks!

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 23 August 2012, 18:22:29 »
The CM Storm Inferno is the only mouse I've used that I find suitable for both palm grip and claw/fingertip grip.  It has a good build quality, great customization, and good price as well.
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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 24 August 2012, 06:51:02 »
Hey geekhack. I decided yesterday that the mouse that I have at work isn't going to cut it, so I'm doing some research. I would like to get your input as to what is the best choice for me. Here are the parameters I'm looking to satisfy:

  • Less than $75
  • Able to seamlessly transition between palm and fingertip grip
  • Not too light

At first I thought I was a hardcore fingertip grip user. But the dual monitors that I use at work are kinda large, and I've discovered that for precision work, I use my index and ring fingers on the LR buttons, middle finger on the wheel, and thumb/pinky gripping the sides. But when I need to make gross movements, I switch from fingertip grip to palm grip, with my index/middle finger resting on the LR buttons.

This rules out the smaller mice like the Abyssus and the G9x. I tried holding the Sensei at best buy, but that is too ambidextrous for my tastes. What are other options that I should be looking at? Right now considering Razer Deathadder, Logitech G400, and the Corsair M90.

If you want a non-ambidex mouse that can transition between claw and fingertip grip, then you really need to try them in your hand before you pick one. I could take guesses basing on the shape of mice but I don't know the shape of your hands, let alone your palm muscle habits/development, and that could be a problem. (As in, if you want it to fit like a glove, which I believe you do.)

However, I see you've already acquainted yourself with G9X. That's a mouse which comes with a detachable chassis, "grip", remember? ;) Thing is, two are shipped ("Wide Load" and "Precision") and a third ("ID") can be bought separately. The third, separately purchased one, is basically a huge palmer. Wide Load is like a palmer, except not so large and probably doesn't fill your entire hand, so it's like similar to palm grip but not really it. Good for Windows/Internet use. Precision isn't the most comfortable of all (although perfectly usable for Windows/Internet) but it does offer some precision in games (e.g. micromanagement in Starcraft). Also, you can use the mouse without any grip, in which case it becomes ...a totally different mouse! Kinda like a laser Kinzu on steroids, I guess. Very fluid, very compact.

My only problem with the G9X was that my hand was, after all, still too big for it (even though I loved the mouse before it died (they have problems with cable)).

Also, ask yourself about the reasons why you want palm grip. This because in some cases you can achieve the same things but without actually having palm grip. E.g. smaller, lighter mice can give you a comfortable hold and reduced fatigue. Do take weight into consideration. Also, sometimes a small mouse is heavy like a brick, whereas a huge palmer can actually be light. For example, Steelseries Ikari is a huge brick in terms of size but it's light at 90 grams. In comparison, G9X is at least 50% heavier despite being smaller.

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 25 August 2012, 03:08:21 »
Steelseries Raw/Sensei
IME 3.0 - Although old, but still works very well.

But if finger grip..

Steelseries Kana
Razer Orochi
Roccat Kova?

But if it had to be between M90, Deathadder and G400, I would choose G400, it's not light, not heavy and has a good shape. What game do you play?
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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 25 August 2012, 14:24:57 »
Again i'm going to recommend the abyssus LOL edition here based on your criteria and the feedback from the mice you've tested.

Offline swagpiratex

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 25 August 2012, 18:55:18 »
Abyssus would have been a contender, but they were sold out at all the Fry's that I was able to check out, so I couldn't really test drive it, haha. Does it have side buttons for internet navigation? Didn't get to try the Kova out of the box, but thought that the odd angle at the 3/4 would take getting used to . It's a cool ambidextrous mouse, but I don't think it's worth $50.

Finally got to check out the G400 in its box. Looked like a solid mouse too.


I ended up copping the $50 MW3 G9x edition on Amazon. Branding doesn't bother me, and I really, really like how it clicks. I don't really game on the PC anymore, but played counterstrike when it was still in beta 0.7 back in like 5th grade. I work with computers in the office doing models, and having been a gamer before, I can appreciate good equipment.


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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 27 August 2012, 17:23:25 »
G400 is awesome.

But seriously.

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 27 August 2012, 18:02:09 »
I own the G400, DeathAdder, and Abyssus. As someone who uses palm grip exclusively, my personal preference is slightly in favor of the G400, with DeathAdder in close second and Abyssus last (the Abyssus is actually used by my 6-year-old as I would never buy a small mouse for myself). I find the G400 to be even more for palm-only use than the DeathAdder, so I don't think it's what you're looking for.

Based on your criteria, I believe you would like the Abyssus. It feels like a trimmed down DeathAdder so it's actually not that bad for palm grip, but it feels great when maneuvering with the fingers. The only downside is the lack of any side buttons for navigation.

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 27 August 2012, 18:04:12 »
OP: Have you tried the abyssus? it's the only mouse i can stand these days. no extra buttons, high DPI, nice texture, low cost and you can disable the LED. i switch my grip somewhat often and don't really run into problems.
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Offline swagpiratex

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 27 August 2012, 18:07:29 »
@sth: I would try it. But apparently it's so popular that it's OOS everywhere. fffuuu

Thanks Chaotic, for your feedback. Appreciate hearing from someone that actually owns a couple of high-end mice, lol.

@daerid: I'll cop one for home use, and if it doesn't cut it, I'll give it to my dad.

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 27 August 2012, 20:02:31 »
There is a reason they are sold out.
I've gone through enough mice to know what truly fits the bill as a claw gripper ;)
The abyssus LOL edition sensor has zero prediction, no jitter (in my experience with 4 LOL editions) no negative/positive acceleration, and a very high (one of the highest) error speed (the max. speed at which the sensor errors out).
If you claw grip or are on the fence it is the current mouse to get (don't let anyone tell you otherwise).

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Re: Help Me Choose My Next Mouse!
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 27 August 2012, 20:05:22 »
Logitech G500 or G5:  Right handed, good for palm/claw hybrid, and laser (I hate optical/ball).