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Offline dmbr

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How to safely clean keys?
« on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:14:04 »
I've looked for a good answer, but so far I've only found warnings of what not to do...

Could you guys please tell me how I could safely clean my keycaps without damaging them in any way, please?

Thanks!

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:31:26 »
Soak in dental tabs (follow the instructions on the box - usually something like 2 or 3 tablets in warm water).  Dry thoroughly (e.g. overnight) before replacing on keyboard.
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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:49:41 »
For the record, what are the ways not to do it?
If it were me, I would probably pour isopropyl all over them and then wipe them with a cloth..

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:51:56 »
Yes, I was thinking isopropyl alcohol, too, but read not to use it as it was not gentle enough :(

Thanks for the advice, rowdy, I'll look into what dental tabs are xD
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Offline Skull_Angel

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:56:22 »
I guess it depends on the keycap material. Couldn't care less for my old POM caps, so I took a toothbrush and alcohol to 'em if ever they got dirty; I'd not do that with PBT or ABS though, lol.

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:56:31 »
I should really write an article on this...

1.  Go to CVS/Walgreens or something similar and buy yourself the cheapest denture tabs they have.  Usually the store brand ones.
2.  Depending on how many keycaps you want to clean, drop 1-3 tabs into a small bucket/bowl along with the keycaps.
3.  Fill up the bowl with warm water and stir until all the tabs have dissolved
4.  Wait 20-30 minutes and strain the keycaps
5.  Rinse them a few more times in just plain warm water
6.  Lay them out and wipe them with a micro fiber towel until they are semi-dry
7.  Throw them into a pillow case > tie the loose end > throw them in your dryer on low heat (delicates) for 10 minutes.
8.  Take them out, re-wipe with microfiber towel
9.  Enjoy.

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:58:59 »
Thanks. Good to know.

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 16:26:39 »
Definitely do NOT use GooGone / CitriSolve.  I learned that the hard way.

I was planning on soaking my old Model M caps in an OxyClean solution.  That's  probably equivalent to denture tabs.

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 17:02:43 »
I mix a spoonful of powdered laundry detergent (I prefer Charlie's) and a spoonful of Oxi-Clean or Biz in 2 liters of hot water.

Soak for 10-30 minutes and rinse thoroughly (ie several times in a basket or colander).

Air dry for several hours, or hand shake each key onto a dirty T-shirt on your bed and air dry for 15 minutes.

I have cleaned thousands of keys this way, and it is the easiest and cheapest, and I can count the number of times it has failed on one hand.

On really stubborn marks, use a pencil eraser.
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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 17:14:53 »
Example: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36326.0

My adventure was pretty much the same as this.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 18:30:32 »
Example: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36326.0

My adventure was pretty much the same as this.

:)

One important thing is that just before you're going to put the key caps back on the keyboard, tap the bottom a few times on some paper towel and make sure no water comes out. Water droplets can very easily get stuck in the stem mount even after they're left out to dry, and you wouldn't want those getting into your switches.

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 18:31:32 »
I use ~5:1 water to generic dishwashing liquid to soak them overnight (overnight because I rather not wait around). I wouldn't use denture tabs or other chemical cleaning stuff unless they are visibly stained. Dishwash will clean most of the body oils from your fingers off of it. I clean monthly so I never had to use more aggressive stuff.

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 18:50:08 »
If you hold the key upright between your index finger and thumb, and sling it diagonally downwards, you will remove 98% of the water and it will air dry the rest of the way in minutes.

Laundry detergent works best, in my opinion.

The "oxi" or bleach-type additives really make it squeaky-clean, but you must rinse well. They are also corrosive, so I wipe down all my wire stabilizers with light oil, in addition to lubing the clips they are seated into.
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That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 07 November 2012, 19:29:44 »
You know those mesh laundry bags? I toss the washed caps in them, and swing it around for a bit and they are dry enough to put away.

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 08 November 2012, 03:32:22 »
caps in a mesh laundry bag -> washing machine (50 °C) -> perfect
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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 01:50:05 »
^I'd feel so bad having the keys beat each other up in there. :(

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 07:58:46 »
^I'd feel so bad having the keys beat each other up in there. :(

I was afraid to try that in the beginning too, but now I also do it like this. Did my last five sets or something like this. They are superclean when they come out. I put it on the short wash function (like 30min), adjust the swirl speed and voila!

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 15:16:09 »
lol the thread title does say "how to safely clean keys".
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 15:27:15 »
Just don't dry the keys in the oven...
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Re: How to safely clean keys?
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 13 November 2012, 10:01:11 »
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