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Offline Brown

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Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« on: Sat, 16 March 2013, 21:18:29 »
I was looking in the classifieds section at a whole bunch of stuff and came across some people selling plates and PCBs for a KBC Poker, since the Poker seems to be a really popular keyboard and has stopped production I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction in a building your own keyboard guide.  Anything would be appreciated, thank you in advance!

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Offline Brown

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Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 16 March 2013, 21:48:41 »
I have heard it everywhere but I only knew it was a custom keyboard, I thought it was only for people in the group buy so I didn't go too deep into looking at it.

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Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 12:22:23 »
Hey Brown,
I suggest to check out this thread:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0

I have a dream to build a normal keyboard with cherry MX Red switches with thumbshift keys beside a very short spacebar or underneath a long spacebar.  But I have terrible handpain problems so my progress is excruciatingly slow.  Both literally and figuratively.  I have lots of $$$ to spend on the project if I ever meet someone who wants the same keyboard as me.
I have actually kind of given up doing it myself as my whole arm has become fuxxed up with pain. :(


Maybe u can have better success with your project.

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Re: Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 12:27:47 »
Hey Brown,
I suggest to check out this thread:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0

I have a dream to build a normal keyboard with cherry MX Red switches with thumbshift keys beside a very short spacebar or underneath a long spacebar.  But I have terrible handpain problems so my progress is excruciatingly slow.  Both literally and figuratively.  I have lots of $$$ to spend on the project if I ever meet someone who wants the same keyboard as me.
I have actually kind of given up doing it myself as my whole arm has become fuxxed up with pain. :(


Maybe u can have better success with your project.

If $$$ is not a problem get either a maltron 3d or Kinesis Advantage. So you don't have to bother building yourself.
You can order advantage with red key direct from Kinesis website
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Re: Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 12:35:41 »
If $$$ is not a problem get either a maltron 3d or Kinesis Advantage. So you don't have to bother building yourself.
You can order advantage with red key direct from Kinesis website

I think he had wanted it to look like a normal keyboard though...
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Re: Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:46:40 »
If $$$ is not a problem get either a maltron 3d or Kinesis Advantage. So you don't have to bother building yourself.
You can order advantage with red key direct from Kinesis website

I think he had wanted it to look like a normal keyboard though...
Exactly.  Thank you. :)

The Kinesis Advantage is not ergonomic anyway.  They removed the springs out from under all the function keys.  Why would anyone with hand pain want to pay $300.00 to hurt themselves every time they press a function key?  Its idiotic.

And I don't want a keyboard that is racist against the free opensource high-quality super-efficient PS/2 protocol.

And I don't want a bowl-shaped keyboard that tempts ppl to put pressure on their carpal bones (wrist bones).  Have you ever heard of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome?
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Re: Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 16:23:12 »
[quote author=TotalChaos link=topic=41287.msg832180#msg832180 date

And I don't want a bowl-shaped keyboard that tempts ppl to put pressure on their carpal bones (wrist bones).  Have you ever heard of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome?
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you are on a site where most users use their computer for a living and/or for having fun. that makes a lot of time in front of a keyboard , thus having more chances to get a carpal tunnel syndrom, this making them more likely to at least know about it :P
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Re: Re: Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 24 March 2013, 19:02:40 »
The function key issue of the kinesis is understandable. It is a shame indeed. I just remap them and momentarily access through modified palm key. If Kinesis function key is an issue how about maltron.

On another note, the reason for split matrix bowl is to reduce finger,wrist stress and contortion needed to operate normal staggered flat keyboard. Shouldn't that mean less contribution to cts? A clip on youtube could demonstrade this.
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Re: Re: Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 11:26:32 »
The function key issue of the kinesis is understandable. It is a shame indeed. I just remap them and momentarily access through modified palm key. If Kinesis function key is an issue how about maltron.
For normal keyboards I am not interested in Fn layers as I would be pressing yet another modifier key with my pinkies, which is where a lot of my hand pain is coming from.  The pinky fingers are simply overused on normal keyboards.  When writing code I am constantly pressing shift/alt/ctrl/Amiga with my pinky finger.  (Amiga key = OS key which some ppl call the Windoze key).

But ok the Kinesis has thumb keys but one gets used as the Enter key right?

Anyway  the whole point of the function keys is so I can lower my handpain by pressing a single key (not 2 keys because 2 keys = double the pain).   I have my function keys setup with coding macros.

I replied this msg to try to make a justification for getting myself a Kinesis due to the multiple thumb keys but once again I have failed to convince myself.

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On another note, the reason for split matrix bowl is to reduce finger,wrist stress and contortion needed to operate normal staggered flat keyboard. Shouldn't that mean less contribution to cts? A clip on youtube could demonstrade this.
I grant u that is an interesting idea.  I have not researched that aspect so I neither agree nor disagree.  I have never had CTS.  I skipped right over that one and went straight to "imminent death". 

But I read that the reason for the bowl shape was to have an excuse to not have springs under the function keys.  That is true isn't it?


I just want a normal keyboard with normal function keys and normal thumb keys.  That super ridiculously nice fellow in the other thread even layed a plate out for me with all 24 of the standard functions keys specified by the ancient PS/2 standard.

I have nothing against split keyboards.  I would totally use one as long as it was not sabotaged in some way.  I don't need a split keyboard but it would not hurt me to use one.

My complaints against regular keyboards are:
1. Too much impact force.  Horribly unhealthy for everybody.
2. No thumb keys.
3. Not enough keys.
4. Weirdo screwball keycap profiles.
5. Customer-hostile mounting plate that makes it very difficult to lube the switches. 
6. Some keyboards are rigged to not work with PS/2.  Thankfully there are very many keyboards that do not have this problem.

All of those problems can be easily fixed by any healthy keyboard-building kind of person.  It just takes a pile of money and some time.  I have the money and the time but not the health.


Rosewill RK-9000RE #1 (Broke on day 26, fixed with Scotch Tape on day 42, barely holding together)
Rosewill RK-9000RE #2 (Lubed, still in the box.  I am afraid to use it because it will break like the first one)

Offline vatin

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Re: Any guides to making your own keyboard?
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:33:33 »
Yaw TotalChaos

Then go Maltron
Either 2d or 3d as you desired
- Matrix layout - big ergo plus - with concern for comfort, I don't see a reason for you to prefer staggered layout.
- No fn modifyer to cause you pain
- Thumb keys
- All real mechanical keys
- Readily available. No build needed.
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