Iphone Event Tomorrow!

[ynrozturk]

The point is that they will defend the brand and even claim to have specs it doesn't have just because of blatant fanboyism. That was the point. I don't recall saying anywhere that technology illiterate people should not buy tech. That was simply you trying to put words in my mouth.

[sth]

The point is that they will defend the brand and even claim to have specs it doesn't have just because of blatant fanboyism. That was the point. I don't recall saying anywhere that technology illiterate people should not buy tech. That was simply you trying to put words in my mouth.

whatever, dude.

[IPT]

Wait a second,

iPhone 5c USA
$99  (=£62)

iPhone 5c UK
£469 (=$737)

Last time I checked $99 =/= $737

What am I missing ?

$99.99 is the subsidized price
Off contract the 5C is $549.

You guys have VAT included in your price too, US price is pretax.

Also Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave right now
Tim Cook's steered apple completely away from his Vision/Strategy

Also I think this is the 1st time ever after an announcement Apple's stock drops
It closed down 2.28% today

[vun]

The point is that they will defend the brand and even claim to have specs it doesn't have just because of blatant fanboyism. That was the point. I don't recall saying anywhere that technology illiterate people should not buy tech. That was simply you trying to put words in my mouth.

I still don't see how it matters, yeah it's annoying to discuss with fanboys, but that's why you act smart and don't start the discussion in the first place for the same reasons that you don't start discussions on religion or politics with strangers.
If they're not paying enough attention to even know what their specs are then you can simply ignore them.

[ynrozturk]

The point is that they will defend the brand and even claim to have specs it doesn't have just because of blatant fanboyism. That was the point. I don't recall saying anywhere that technology illiterate people should not buy tech. That was simply you trying to put words in my mouth.

I still don't see how it matters, yeah it's annoying to discuss with fanboys, but that's why you act smart and don't start the discussion in the first place for the same reasons that you don't start discussions on religion or politics with strangers.
If they're not paying enough attention to even know what their specs are then you can simply ignore them.

I'm aware of that. Nor do I care what anyone buys. Nor did I start that discussion with him as you assume. I really don't give a crap what people buy/use.

But when someone comes to be showing off his new iPad mini going on and on about it's (non existent) retina display, the nerd in me simply has to tell him the truth.

[Belfong]

Does anyone hate pages and pages (on a mobile device) of quoting and only one sentence or one word answer?

Whatever

I'm just angry there's no big screen iPhone.

[sth]

The point is that they will defend the brand and even claim to have specs it doesn't have just because of blatant fanboyism. That was the point. I don't recall saying anywhere that technology illiterate people should not buy tech. That was simply you trying to put words in my mouth.

I still don't see how it matters, yeah it's annoying to discuss with fanboys, but that's why you act smart and don't start the discussion in the first place for the same reasons that you don't start discussions on religion or politics with strangers.
If they're not paying enough attention to even know what their specs are then you can simply ignore them.

I'm aware of that. Nor do I care what anyone buys. Nor did I start that discussion with him as you assume. I really don't give a crap what people buy/use.

But when someone comes to be showing off his new iPad mini going on and on about it's (non existent) retina display, the nerd in me simply has to tell him the truth.

whatever, dude.

[ynrozturk]

Are you trying to be annoying or just genuinely retarded?

[acantha]

The point is that they will defend the brand and even claim to have specs it doesn't have just because of blatant fanboyism. That was the point. I don't recall saying anywhere that technology illiterate people should not buy tech. That was simply you trying to put words in my mouth.

I still don't see how it matters, yeah it's annoying to discuss with fanboys, but that's why you act smart and don't start the discussion in the first place for the same reasons that you don't start discussions on religion or politics with strangers.
If they're not paying enough attention to even know what their specs are then you can simply ignore them.

I'm aware of that. Nor do I care what anyone buys. Nor did I start that discussion with him as you assume. I really don't give a crap what people buy/use.

But when someone comes to be showing off his new iPad mini going on and on about it's (non existent) retina display, the nerd in me simply has to tell him the truth.

that sounds more like your problem than theirs, if all they are doing is talking about something they like, and you feel compelled to correct them where its neither your business nor really useful to do so.

[ynrozturk]

So someone buys a Filco thinking it has MX Reds and goes on and on about how good they feel, even though in reality the board is clicky as hell and has MX Blues. I have a hard time believing that you would not tell them what they really had.

[Thimplum]

So someone buys a Filco thinking it has MX Reds and goes on and on about how good they feel, even though in reality the board is clicky as hell and has MX Blues. I have a hard time believing that you would not tell them what they really had.

^^

[acantha]

So someone buys a Filco thinking it has MX Reds and goes on and on about how good they feel, even though in reality the board is clicky as hell and has MX Blues. I have a hard time believing that you would not tell them what they really had.

thats a false equivalency, for one, and your earlier posts state that you don't just correct them, but that they are somehow worthy of scorn for being wrong. i don't think theres anything wrong with the former, but the latter is more problematic.

[demik]

point is you're taking this to heart way too much.

you don't like apple so why so butt hurt? you're not in their demographic, that's a given. if people want to fall for this snake oil then that's their problem. money isn't coming from your pocket so why this crusade against apple?

are you an android shill? M$ Shill? w/e other OS shill? it's fine to give your opinion but damn dude, not that serious.

*puts on /kl tin foil hat*
also, finger print scanners lolol

remember apple works for NSA. they now have a finger print/name database without even trying.

*takes off /kl tin foil hat*

continue!

[vun]

So someone buys a Filco thinking it has MX Reds and goes on and on about how good they feel, even though in reality the board is clicky as hell and has MX Blues. I have a hard time believing that you would not tell them what they really had.

On this forum, yes, since it's about keyboards. If someone I barely know comes up to me and goes on about how fantastic his new razer dome board is then I just pretend to agree with him. Unless it's someone I know well I rarely bother correcting them on technicalities since I don't see what good it does to basically go "no, you're wrong."

also demik tinfoil hat made me lul

[ynrozturk]

So someone buys a Filco thinking it has MX Reds and goes on and on about how good they feel, even though in reality the board is clicky as hell and has MX Blues. I have a hard time believing that you would not tell them what they really had.

On this forum, yes, since it's about keyboards. If someone I barely know comes up to me and goes on about how fantastic his new razer dome board is then I just pretend to agree with him. Unless it's someone I know well I rarely bother correcting them on technicalities since I don't see what good it does to basically go "no, you're wrong."

also demik tinfoil hat made me lul

If you had bothered to read my previous post correctly, you would have noticed that I said that he was my old web developer. This guy would develop Apple apps and test them on his iPad - so yes, I think that him knowing the correct resolution and pixel density of his device as important and relevant.

[ynrozturk]

also, finger print scanners lolol

remember apple works for NSA. they now have a finger print/name database without even trying.

Pretty clever way to collect information. I just find that to be wrong on a moral level. Who knows that they will do with that data. I don't even want to think about the possibilities.

[demik]

also, finger print scanners lolol

remember apple works for NSA. they now have a finger print/name database without even trying.

 I just find that to be wrong on a moral level. Who knows that they will do with that data. I don't even want to think about the possibilities.

i take it you haven't been following the NSA scandal? they already do collect all of our data. this is just another piece for their collection. and people will eat it up. and complain, but still go out and buy this phone.

[ynrozturk]

I've read about it a bit, but I haven't been following it too closely. Last I heard Microsoft and Google were going to take the NSA to court.

[acantha]

I've read about it a bit, but I haven't been following it too closely. Last I heard Microsoft and Google were going to take the NSA to court.

 ) ) )

[demik]

I've read about it a bit, but I haven't been following it too closely. Last I heard Microsoft and Google were going to take the NSA to court.

it's all BS in the end.

corporations rule this world. govt is just a front for them.

[ynrozturk]

Very true.

[baldgye]

Oi baldguy, I was quoting you this morning. Get a galaxy, I can't look at iPhone screens anymore they're too small.

But I don't want a galaxy... I like the fact the iPhone isn't a mini tablet and that I can use it with one hand without a problem....




And it's a shame that this thread turned into people crying about Apple products and not really about talking about there new products...

[bueller]

Underwhelming announcement for sure but honestly I didn't expect any different. Will be interesting to see how sales go considering how dominant Android is these days, every year up until this one I've heard tons of people going on and on about the new iPhone releases. This year no-one seems to give a ****.

[baldgye]

Underwhelming announcement for sure but honestly I didn't expect any different. Will be interesting to see how sales go considering how dominant Android is these days, every year up until this one I've heard tons of people going on and on about the new iPhone releases. This year no-one seems to give a ****.

Which Android partner do you have shares off?

[bueller]

Underwhelming announcement for sure but honestly I didn't expect any different. Will be interesting to see how sales go considering how dominant Android is these days, every year up until this one I've heard tons of people going on and on about the new iPhone releases. This year no-one seems to give a ****.

Which Android partner do you have shares off?

 

What part of my post do you take issue with?

[rowdy]

I was kinda hoping there would be a "one more thing" announcement of new Macs, particularly the Mac mini.  Maybe in a few weeks they will sneak one in.

[bueller]

I was kinda hoping there would be a "one more thing" announcement of new Macs, particularly the Mac mini.  Maybe in a few weeks they will sneak one in.

I've always wanted to pick up a Mac Mini - that would be one announcement I'd definitely be interested in.

[baldgye]

Underwhelming announcement for sure but honestly I didn't expect any different. Will be interesting to see how sales go considering how dominant Android is these days, every year up until this one I've heard tons of people going on and on about the new iPhone releases. This year no-one seems to give a ****.

Which Android partner do you have shares off?

 

What part of my post do you take issue with?

Just the sentiment, not sure why you appear to want Apple to fail so much, unless you have stock in a company that makes Android phones. If Apple do better and gain more market share Android will only become better, if Apple does worse Android makers can relax and the OS updates and improvements slow down...

Why unless your financially investing in one of the companies would you want less competition? It makes no sense.




On a side note why people champion the Galaxy s4 is beyond me, it's a hideous, nasty plastic phone with poor aftermarket apps crammed into it. I'd much rather have the HTC One....

[iri]

i have a mac mini (for free), and this device made me disappointed in apple computers.
now i see there is no future for apple mobile devices as well.

[rowdy]

i have a mac mini (for free), and this device made me disappointed in apple computers.
now i see there is no future for apple mobile devices as well.

What did you not like about the Mac mini?

[iri]

features / cost rate is too low.
i got this device (with mountain lion) at work to check out apple computers, which i haven't been using since apparently 1997, and got disappointed with both apple's software and hardware. don't get me wrong, it works fine, but for these money you can buy or build a pc with much better specs. and mac os works well, but it'is nothing special, and it has its own quirks (why can't i remap command-tab? and why must mdworker slow down my computer so much?).

[baldgye]

Given that this has now devolved into a talk about why Apples products arnt good, I think calling some of there devices out on price and specs to be the laziest meaningless thing to compain about.

I don't own a Mac, never have, I don't need one for how I use a computer and probablly never will. But the Mac Mini is such a nicely made and designed little box tht you cannot get really anything much like it in the PC space without custom building something, then calling it over priced (for what it is) is so redundant.
On top of that, you got it for free (apparentally) making the cost irrelevant anyway....

What where you expecting? Nothing about OSX should really come as a surprise given how well it's marketed. From my own experiences with using friends it seems perfectly capable as a general purpose OS aswel as catering to it's niche markets like design and audio

[Findecanor]

Wait a second,

iPhone 5c USA
$99  (=£62)

iPhone 5c UK
£469 (=$737)

Last time I checked $99 =/= $737

What am I missing ?

The price is with a carrier plan.

It is easier for me to repost from another forum than look it up myself ...

Unlocked prices for 5s: $649/$749/$849 (16/32/64GB); 5c: $549/$649 (16/32GB)

[Findecanor]

I'm just angry there's no big screen iPhone.

Then they would have to make another screen size.

That would confuse Apple developers immensely, because scalable interfaces is an unknown concept to them.

I was kinda hoping there would be a "one more thing" announcement of new Macs, particularly the Mac mini.  Maybe in a few weeks they will sneak one in.

I know. The "one more thing..." thing is a tradition at Apple product events. Why this sudden break with tradition, Tim Cook!?

I don't own a Mac, never have, I don't need one for how I use a computer and probablly never will.

I had one of the last PPC Mac Mini's, for a few weeks many years ago. I had been a NextStep fan and had bought into the MacOS X being a modern useful improved NextStep. How wrong I was.
I absolutely hated it. For a reason I don't know why, the mouse tracking was weird, and the text in the interface was not rendered with hinting so it was really blurry (not a very high-res screen, but anyway).

These days, I am thinking about maybe getting a PPC Mac Mini again ... to install a reborn-again version of the AmigaOS just for kicks. But actually, mostly to get an opportunity to build an Amiga case-mod... 

[bueller]

Underwhelming announcement for sure but honestly I didn't expect any different. Will be interesting to see how sales go considering how dominant Android is these days, every year up until this one I've heard tons of people going on and on about the new iPhone releases. This year no-one seems to give a ****.

Which Android partner do you have shares off?

 

What part of my post do you take issue with?

Just the sentiment, not sure why you appear to want Apple to fail so much, unless you have stock in a company that makes Android phones. If Apple do better and gain more market share Android will only become better, if Apple does worse Android makers can relax and the OS updates and improvements slow down...

Why unless your financially investing in one of the companies would you want less competition? It makes no sense.

On a side note why people champion the Galaxy s4 is beyond me, it's a hideous, nasty plastic phone with poor aftermarket apps crammed into it. I'd much rather have the HTC One....

I never said I wanted them to fail at all, I just made an observation based on how many of my friends have made the switch from iPhone to Android. Apple need to make some serious changes otherwise they are setting themselves up for failure, nothing about the last 2 iPhone releases have been innovative at all. They can't just coast along on the iPhone brand forever.

Totally agree with you about the S4, I like the hardware but everything since the S2 has felt rubbish to me (mine is still going strong 3 years after purchase and I PUNISH my phones).

[ynrozturk]

The SII is an absolute legend of a phone. I think ROM's are still being written for it. It holds a very important place for Android development.

[bueller]

The SII is an absolute legend of a phone. I think ROM's are still being written for it. It holds a very important place for Android development.

Yeah the ROM community is still very active for the SII, they still get nightlies for CM, PA and a host of other ROMS.

[baldgye]

Underwhelming announcement for sure but honestly I didn't expect any different. Will be interesting to see how sales go considering how dominant Android is these days, every year up until this one I've heard tons of people going on and on about the new iPhone releases. This year no-one seems to give a ****.

Which Android partner do you have shares off?

 

What part of my post do you take issue with?

Just the sentiment, not sure why you appear to want Apple to fail so much, unless you have stock in a company that makes Android phones. If Apple do better and gain more market share Android will only become better, if Apple does worse Android makers can relax and the OS updates and improvements slow down...

Why unless your financially investing in one of the companies would you want less competition? It makes no sense.

On a side note why people champion the Galaxy s4 is beyond me, it's a hideous, nasty plastic phone with poor aftermarket apps crammed into it. I'd much rather have the HTC One....

I never said I wanted them to fail at all, I just made an observation based on how many of my friends have made the switch from iPhone to Android. Apple need to make some serious changes otherwise they are setting themselves up for failure, nothing about the last 2 iPhone releases have been innovative at all. They can't just coast along on the iPhone brand forever.

Totally agree with you about the S4, I like the hardware but everything since the S2 has felt rubbish to me (mine is still going strong 3 years after purchase and I PUNISH my phones).

I guess it's more the way it read that what you actually said. Though most people I know who have android phones have always had them

[bueller]

I guess it's more the way it read that what you actually said. Though most people I know who have android phones have always had them

It's a very regional thing as well I think, iPhones were very dominant in the Australian market up until last year but since the S3 came out it seems Android is the 'new thing'.

[rowdy]

features / cost rate is too low.
i got this device (with mountain lion) at work to check out apple computers, which i haven't been using since apparently 1997, and got disappointed with both apple's software and hardware. don't get me wrong, it works fine, but for these money you can buy or build a pc with much better specs. and mac os works well, but it'is nothing special, and it has its own quirks (why can't i remap command-tab? and why must mdworker slow down my computer so much?).

Fair enough, thanks for that.