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Offline mrstef

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Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 22:53:34 »
Hey all!

I was wondering if there was any interest on here buying/selling mechKB parts for Bitcoins/Litecoins?

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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 23:01:12 »
The currency used here is exclusively CCs :)

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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 23:17:10 »
Hey all!

I was wondering if there was any interest on here buying/selling mechKB parts for Bitcoins/Litecoins?

     Contrary to popular opinion on GeekHack, I actually prefer LTC or BTC payments.
     From a seller's perspective, they are good because transactions are non-reversable. No way for scammers to take back their money after they recieve the item. Also if you play the market right, you can get more money than you were originally paid. Then you can use Coinbase to convert BTC to USD and deposit it into your bank account.
     LTC and BTC payment is easier for buyers too. It is very convient and simple to send money. No account or anything is needed like Paypal.
     I can understand how most people are weary of BTC. However with all the issues with Paypal (freezing accounts, wrongly filed disputes) I see BTC and LTC becoming a better  alternative.
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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 03:18:13 »
Biggest problem is the inconsistent value of bitcoins. Like that one dude who converted his life savings to btc and almost crashed the market lol

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 10:43:33 »
Yeah, its been inconsistent in the past, but it's been sitting between $125-135 usd/btc for months now. I ask specifically for the reasons TheFlyingRaccoon mentioned -- we're buying and selling goods and commodities on a virtual market.. it's SO much easier (with equal or less risk) to use BTC/LTC.

The only way to make the risk relatively equal is to use Gift Paypal.. Which is never a good idea unless you're actually sending a gift because it provides no protection to anyone.

BTC + escrow (ie. Bitmit or other services) means no chargebacks (Paypal vendor accounts has TONs of seller risk), and if the seller flakes out on the buyer, the buyer never has to release the coins. Worst case scenario, the buyer is a **** and refuses to release the coins, in which case Seller can make an appeal to Escrow (with shipping info etc.) and you have built in arbitrage.

And all this is done without phone calls, without wasting any time-- a few short clicks and QR scans. //end zealotry

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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 11:02:53 »
the whole point of BTC is an anonymous source of currency
it really wasn't planned to have actual "cash value" per say.

i dunno, i find a currency that crashed in july under $100 a bit risky.

also the whole point of collecting $$ for GB or what not is that payment has to be made to the manufacture (for example Signature Plastics) before production will be made.

What you're proposing won't work as you'd need to send the BTC over to the organizer who'd need to cash out the BTC and pay SP before production will begin.

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 11:48:13 »
The risk is for sure, I can't argue that.

I would argue that the 'point' is anonymity -- there are many points to BTC. Deflationary, unregulated, international are three off of the top of my head.

And we do group buys with BTC all the time.

Much like here, they require a champion (someone who collects the money), transparency (which the blockchain allows beyond the 'goodness' of the champion, by broadcasting all transactions. It shows exactly who sent what, how much and where, readily available to everyone -- including transaction signatures). And finally, the vendor simply needs to be registered with BitPay (minimal fees, less than PayPal or comparable servies), which immediately converts BTC into fiat of choice (USD, for instance) at the time of transaction. 

Of course, the last point requires the vendor to accept BTC.. which goes back to my original question :)

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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 11:50:53 »
I would never ever ever work with a vendor or sell things with BTC or LTC. I like real money, not bits on a computer that aren't backed up by paper/real coins.

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:24:07 »
I would never ever ever work with a vendor or sell things with BTC or LTC. I like real money, not bits on a computer that aren't backed up by paper/real coins.

why though?  US Paper/coin money USED to be backed by the silver standard but that was done away with many years ago.  Your money isn't backed by anything other than a promise by the us government.
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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:25:48 »
Rather it be backed by the US government than some kids, video cards, and servers.

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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:27:30 »
Never seen the appeal of BitCoin's... Cold hard cash only for me.

(And PayPal)
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:30:51 »
Ya i'm sticking to cashish

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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:33:20 »
Rather it be backed by the US government than some kids, video cards, and servers.

Yeah.  Crooks and warmongers are better.
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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:34:06 »
Rather it be backed by the US government than some kids, video cards, and servers.

Yeah.  Crooks and warmongers are better.

But how else will be pay for the oil?
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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« Reply #14 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:34:29 »
Rather it be backed by the US government than some kids, video cards, and servers.

Yeah.  Crooks and warmongers are better.

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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:42:58 »
Rather it be backed by the US government than some kids, video cards, and servers.

Yeah.  Crooks and warmongers are better.

But how else will be pay for the oil?

True true.
Rather it be backed by the US government than some kids, video cards, and servers.

Yeah.  Crooks and warmongers are better.

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Hardly.  Just found it funny as if the government or banks are moral. We are ****ed either way.

I get it though. With bitcoin you dont know when youll get ****ed. With the gov/banks youre getting ****ed already.
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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:54:56 »
Of course, that's totally fair! I don't expect adoption or to change minds or anything.

A lot of it is personal choice.. and I don't consider BTC much different (bits of info) from Paypal or even email-bank transfer.. I mean, it's not like banks physically have all your money sitting in piles of rubber bands either, right? There's some insurance on your funds, (Federal reserve etc.) but certainly not enough for everyone...

Coinbase and BitPay make withdrawing, transferring and depositing BTC as easy as PayPal, with less fees, period. Once I get up to 60 posts (I appreciate the conversation on this topic... helps me spout random information haha) I'd totally be interested in setting up a joint PayPal/BTC/LTC Groupbuy if there was enough interest.

I encourage anyone reading to take another look at BTC -- the landscape has changed dramatically in the last year.

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 12:59:53 »
Once I get up to 60 posts (I appreciate the conversation on this topic... helps me spout random information haha)

Unfortunately offtopic doesn't count towards your post count.

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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 13:03:45 »
...****.

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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 15:58:31 »
I completely agree with you mrstef but as you can see, most people are opposed to change. However in light of this discussion, I will get BTC payment set up for my cable shop. Maybe with you and a few other people's support, we can prove BTC is a viable payment option.
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Re: Keyboard Bitcoin Vendors/Sales
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 16:13:41 »
Awesome! And those cables look sick! Once I get my caps in I'll shoot you a message. I'd love to replace this fugly white Leo cable with something else.