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Re: noob question: compare switches to those in Model M
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 13:10:34 »
hey spamray, how do tactile greys feel compared with clears or browns? are they just ultra heavy browns?

I just put some tactile greys in a 3700 and for some reason they remind me a little of buckling springs.
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Re: noob question: compare switches to those in Model M
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 13:22:08 »
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hey spamray, how do tactile greys feel compared with clears or browns? are they just ultra heavy browns?
I just put some tactile greys in a 3700 and for some reason they remind me a little of buckling springs.

well the clears i'm used to are plate mounted and these are pcb mounted.

but these i would call a heavier clear but its odd they have sort of a spring sound, almost like a bs key

i plan on making a full size with them soon

i made a recording but you have to listen hard to heard the spring/ping or whatever its much more present in person

https://www.dropbox.com/s/01oidz9wmj84q36/2013-12-12-13_16_28.mp4

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Re: noob question: compare switches to those in Model M
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 08:43:00 »
Belac, is it more of you noticing it, or others?

I have a fairly open cube at work, with both a model M and a model F, and people don't really notice my keyboards.

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Re: noob question: compare switches to those in Model M
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:17:43 »
It was just me noticing it. It was because of the design of our "offices" there. They were the size of a cube but with 3 walls and a door, so everything was loud inside of them. I ended up with a CM QF with reds. I changed jobs about a month ago and brought my CM board with me and a girl I share an office with commented on how loud it was the very first day. :-(

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Re: noob question: compare switches to those in Model M
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 19:05:27 »
It was just me noticing it. It was because of the design of our "offices" there. They were the size of a cube but with 3 walls and a door, so everything was loud inside of them. I ended up with a CM QF with reds. I changed jobs about a month ago and brought my CM board with me and a girl I share an office with commented on how loud it was the very first day. :-(

With MX reds the most sound is probably from bottoming out.

You could try O-rings to damped the sound a bit.
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Re: noob question: compare switches to those in Model M
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 19:24:06 »
Yeah, the reds and blacks tend to bottom out a bit more. Softer springs, and no tactile bump to act as resistance or to let you know you're about to hit bottom.

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Re: noob question: compare switches to those in Model M
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 19:40:26 »
Yeah it's just the bottoming out. I'm using it at home now and my wife really likes it too so it is serving its purpose. I work from home some too, so I get to use it then. I'm not sure what I'll get next for the office.

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Re: noob question: compare switches to those in Model M
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 19:59:22 »
Yeah it's just the bottoming out. I'm using it at home now and my wife really likes it too so it is serving its purpose. I work from home some too, so I get to use it then. I'm not sure what I'll get next for the office.

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